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Alowing Ninjas to Camoflage would be a great adiction to upping their meele power. As long as they gave up assasination.

I think it would be quite interesting to expand the ninja selections. We could have for example:

-Assassinate + Study

-Camouflage + Extra Second Ninja Lore

I think it is quite balanced.

Alowing Ninjas to Camoflage would be a great adiction to upping their meele power. As long as they gave up assasination.

HA! Now thats a good idea and I think it fits ninjas' RP quite well.

November....man' date=' I cant wait.[/quote']

No kidding. The multiplayer in Brotherhood sounds awesome.

Alowing Ninjas to Camoflage would be a great adiction to upping their meele power. As long as they gave up assasination.

I think it would be quite interesting to expand the ninja selections. We could have for example:

-Assassinate + Study

-Camouflage + Extra Second Ninja Lore

I think it is quite balanced.

Great idea.. that with shadow arts would make a SICK WATCHER NINJA! Holy OVERPOWERED (if you know stalker skills) batman!

Totally Derailed- haha.

Thanks everyone with the input and comical relief. Still trying to ninja, and I've reread all the posts, and I'm confident- as is - the ninja is playable.

There were some hints, so im exploring looking for the ultimite hide eq haha.

but yeah, thanks again.

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Great idea.. that with shadow arts would make a SICK WATCHER NINJA! Holy OVERPOWERED (if you know stalker skills) batman!

YEEEEEAH! Shadow arts. Wanna Apply now.

But Ive noticed everyone hates assassinate.

Great idea.. that with shadow arts would make a SICK WATCHER NINJA! Holy OVERPOWERED (if you know stalker skills) batman!

I doubt it would be overpowered...

But the idea IS good indeed.

I never played that many ninjas, think I got one or two to fifty, but I'm pretty sure once hide is mastered, the plus hide gear is kinda pointless

And another thought, It seems the Ninja class can be completly countered by some class combos.

example: Any vampire cannot be strangled, some Elders and leaders either- Vampires and some elders and leaders can Even seen you both in hide and invis- and say if they arent already so big it would be hard without eating a venom sack.... Its okay! just eat a poison pill!

Seems no matter what, when I start playing the ninja I run into something.

I love them none the less. And I'm still going to play nothing but them yntil i find out how to play them right, or something happens.

WHAT A TWIST!?!?!

There are a lot of ways for people to "see" you, many have to do with class or cabal skills. This is another side of the game you will have to learn do deal with, I promise Ninjas are NOT the only class to be hampered by cabal skills. Some would argue that for every class, there is a cabal skill that hinders their abilities.

There are a lot of ways for people to "see" you' date=' many have to do with class or cabal skills. This is another side of the game you will have to learn do deal with, I promise Ninjas are NOT the only class to be hampered by cabal skills. Some would argue that for every class, there is a cabal skill that hinders their abilities.[/quote']

Yeah, don't know the skills, but I've been caught making mr realize some

That does not prevents ninjas from assassinating Vampires...

i know, though it makes it a bit harder....

i know' date=' though it makes it a bit harder....[/quote']

Yes, I feel the ninja is not about hiding and studying. It's about doing that while getting around being visible, getting around those cabal skills that you will eventually learn, and getting around getting caught. THAT is the ninja game, not that actual commands of study, hide, strangle, etc. I know ALOT of ninja tricks. Unfortunately I don't quite have the finesse to really dominate with one, but I know alot of people do. Things like timing poison durations and strangling on the hour - It can be done and happens, running people into push-traps (push your enemies into a baddy mob and then wail on them) common lag openings. Communer's flight falls? Be ready to trip even if that's not necessarily your plan. Hit and run, getting study and hiding again. This is the game between chars, your finesse vs their vigilance.

Yes' date=' I feel the ninja is not about hiding and studying. It's about doing that while getting around being visible, getting around those cabal skills that you will eventually learn, and getting around getting caught. THAT is the ninja game, not that actual commands of study, hide, strangle, etc. I know ALOT of ninja tricks. Unfortunately I don't quite have the finesse to really dominate with one, but I know alot of people do. Things like timing poison durations and strangling on the hour - It can be done and happens, running people into push-traps (push your enemies into a baddy mob and then wail on them) common lag openings. Communer's flight falls? Be ready to trip even if that's not necessarily your plan. Hit and run, getting study and hiding again. This is the game between chars, your finesse vs their vigilance. [/quote']

Im saving that to a file

I've used push a bunch, but just to get scarecrows together hehe.

Thanks for the tip!

There are a lot of ways for people to "see" you' date=' many have to do with class or cabal skills. This is another side of the game you will have to learn do deal with, I promise Ninjas are NOT the only class to be hampered by cabal skills. Some would argue that for every class, there is a cabal skill that [b']hinders their abilities.

Hinders yes i'll agree to that, but more than that some cabal skills totally nullify some classes usefulness. I'm a huge fan of the paths that some classes get to choose from, mayhaps ninjas could benefit from somethin like that.

I'd also like to mention that ninjas can only pick one ninjitsu, while some other classes for instance blademasters have many unique skills to aquire. A class isn't "supposed" to be played this way or that, but how the player chooses to play them. if a person wants to be silent stealthy ninja, or a flashy martial arts badass, it's all in their hands. I've always kinda thought certain ninjitsu's to be redundant, similar even. seems to me ninjitsu's would work well in different pairs(you all know which ones would go with which). the point being i don't think the new guys thoughts are unfounded, just new. I like the way things are too but i like seeing improvement, and new peoples input should be taken more seriously.

MELEECRAZY! Im going to smoke you out!

If the staff grants ninjas the ability to hide in woodlands, let those rangers and druids have a chance of seeing them hidden.

i think hide in wooded areas automatically should become a sort of camouflage, so that keen sight can see them, if this were ever to be put in or anything.