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Protective SHIELD for Warriors (Shield Lore)

So I was thinking in my sleep and I had this great idea regarding Non giant Warrior races.

What is their main problem as Warriors? Getting Laglocked by Larger opponents. This is the bane of Halfling, and makes them a nightmare.

So I thought, what was the last thing a Warrior would use in Combat? A shield.

Why? Because there is no real advantage for a warrior to use shield. Only downsides.

So this would make Halfling and other warriors who forgo offense for a defensive approach with shields quite viable.

The Mechanics:

You chose Shield Lore as an Mastery or whatever that is called.

And now every time you wear a shield you have a 80-90% specific save chance to avoid getting bashed. Damage still kicks in at Half damage. OR not ???

Remember the shield can still be Disarmed, Cleaved or Droped by STR drop.

Keep arrow immunity and Shield bash.

Using a shield is so bad for a Warrior that 3 perks for it is still not that balancing.

Shield bash = the suck...

Arrow Immunity = usefull vs rangers (Who don't bash)

Bash immunity = Good vs Warriors and Necros...

Have you seen a halfling warrior with shield mastery? Talk about the tank. Because of the high dex, I don't think this change is required. I've seen a shield using halfling warrior tank Adeptus with no healer so...

I still say thumbs up, for two reasons.

  1. Shield warriors lose their bows and the offhanded weapon/pugil so while they can tank, damage output of these "weaker" warriors often spells disaster in the long run.

  2. This Idea was presented by MYA and it has nothing to do with spell casting. While Mya does not play many melees, I do. And I believe that her Idea could breathe new life into shields in general, and as Items go, there are a lot of shields, and few seeking them.

And frankly it beats my idea of creating two unique items; Shield of missle deflection, and Gloves of missle snaring.

I think it's a good idea for the Shield Mastery. This would make halfers a little more interesting against giant melees. But I don't think you should get arrow immunity just the ability to block arrows sometimes.

I like it.

Small/normal size warriors need something. I am not sure if this is THE thing though.

Using a shield really is THE SUCK for warriors.

Remember also that the idea is not just for halflings, what about dwarf and duergar warriors? I personally like it. Good thinking Mya.

IronBreaker Dwarf:

The Ironbreaker is the quintessential dwarf – gruff, quarrelsome and taciturn. He is also your best friend on the field of battle, as any blow struck against his allies is a Grudge that is guaranteed to be repaid in kind. Equipped with his famed gromril armor, and practicing his elite weapon craft, he is a steadfast defender. This dwarf is proof against even the most powerful attacks, standing by his allies and ensuring their safety amidst the swirling chaos of battle. It is said that there are few warriors in the world who can boast they are as tough as an Ironbreaker, and none that can prove it.

Now all we need is a racial axe to sky rocket Dwarv warriors.

Mya, this is FL, stop c/p **** from other games. Lets keep things original.

It's called benchmarking F0xx.

You don't reinvent the wheel, you see what is around and improve on it. In this case I am picking a class from another game and giving you an RP angle for using an possible new Warrior Lore with Dwarves.

Don't be to rigid F0xx. Creativity steam from flexibility.

I love this idea. The intricacies of the shield and the strategy behind the warrior class gets ramped up to an extreme:

On one hand you have a more offensive approach: Dual wield (or balance a bit with two hander) with fired weapons

On the other you get the defensive approach: Weapon + Shield: Arrow protection (not immunity, but 75% block rate maybe) and higher defense at the cost of a second weapon's attacks and fired weapon damage with the bonus of becoming less laggable.

Mya, I think it's a brilliant idea and would add a much needed flavor to the Warrior Class. My only fear is that it would become "THE LORE" and people would really have to choose it to be an optimal warrior.

It's called benchmarking F0xx.

You don't reinvent the wheel, you see what is around and improve on it. In this case I am picking a class from another game and giving you an RP angle for using an possible new Warrior Lore with Dwarves.

Don't be to rigid F0xx. Creativity steam from flexibility.

I hate how you keep comparing FL with other DnD games. FL is unique, don't dare compare with any other game, gameplay wise.

Dwarven warriors don't need ANYTHING. If you play one, you might find this out yourself.

As on the topic, the idea is different, if not else. I would be interested to see how it would fit our game world.

Actually I disagree with you on one point.

Dwarven Warriors lack something. And that something are people playing them.

The idea was for all warriors, but I did focus on Halfling.

I did not copy this from another place. I just had it pop while I was sleeping.

I'm just supporting new interesting RP options for Dwarves, with the Dwarves thing. Something you have seen me do in the Past. I been suggesting a Racial weapon for Dwarves for ages. And a Dwarven King/thane.

Also, FL is not Original. It's a Clone of AR, which is a Clone of CF. Which are all Merc Muds, which are all based on D&D. We even have THAC0 D&D 2 style (and how I hate it).

But we have many original features, and our Roleplay basis is becoming more and more original.

As the mud evolves, we abandon standards like Adeptus, Winter, Shandor into our own RP realm.

Actually I disagree with you on one point.

Dwarven Warriors lack something. And that something are people playing them.

You know, moderate tier was lacking people playing them too and the first who plays it well got nerfed.

Then we lacked a strong necromancer for some time, Kurvi came and necros were nerfed multiple times.

We haven't had a mino warrior in gladiator leave a real mark too. Does this mean they lack something?

shrug

As the mud evolves, we abandon standards like Adeptus, Winter, Shandor into our own RP realm.

I only jump on one point in an otherwise fantastic point. Adeptus was an FL created (Shadowspawn and Virigoth) area.

There have been several very successful dwarven warriors in the past, there have been polls for best warrior race where dwarf got most votes when these were played. I don't think they are lacking anything.

Re Foxx: nerfes are put in when balance is lacking not when one player is doing good. It is just mostly the good players who make you realize these imbalances faster. Stop being so negative.

Re Foxx: nerfes are put in when balance is lacking not when one player is doing good. It is just mostly the good players who make you realize these imbalances faster.

Yeah that was my point too

i.e. Mya saying dwarven warriors are weak because noone plays them. You simply can't make such a conclusion.

You stop being so defensive, I was simply poking at Mya, as usual. You've gotta admit that her protective shield for shield lore idea is not bad though.

Sheer volume of views implies interest and possibly need to research the shield lore warriors have access too. JMHO

suicides are some of the most viewed videos on the internet.. should we look into more suicides? lol sry couldn't help it =p