forums wiki bugs items changes map login play now

Purchasable Skills/Spells for Casters

Debate is encouraged. Please, refrain from turning this into personal attacks. You have been warned.

Edited

35 minutes ago, 'tarako said:

You want to empower mages, you find edges to gently reduce incoming damage, or gently reduce opponent saves. Spellbreaking eq is an idea I cannot remember where I saw it, but felt it was awesome. Afflictive spellbreak makes affl spells slightly harder to save vs once their saves are above a certain number, Just generically buffing spell damage makes fresh 50s even less likely to live, while overall not really impacting fights versus super decked people.

This is why I mentioned a 'spellbreak' edge.  This way, it isn't easily gained without some effort put in.  It won't empower mages vs fresh 50's because they won't really have the insane -saves.  if it is a -10% decrease, that means -50svs goes to -45svs.  But, -15svs only goes to -13svs.

At this point I'd like to see anything to encourage me to rp.  Don't get me wrong.  I rp in game, yet lack reason to go the extra mile.

36 minutes ago, Archbishop Monk said:

This is why I mentioned a 'spellbreak' edge.  This way, it isn't easily gained without some effort put in.  It won't empower mages vs fresh 50's because they won't really have the insane -saves.  if it is a -10% decrease, that means -50svs goes to -45svs.  But, -15svs only goes to -13svs.

I meant there is another mud somewhere that already uses this mechanic on unique caster eq

I would love +1 spellvl to be added as a possible purchase for custom rp items for the face slot (costing 4 points). This should be a useful perk to casters that focus on RP? 150 rp for a tier 3 custom item is a fair bit of work to put in, and there are already other facemasks around that give the extra spellvl. Doesn't seem like a gamebreaker.

eh. I am not a fan of giving all mages super easy access to + spell level out of balance reasons. That is part of the reason neutrals have less + spell level options for example.

Yeah because 100-150 RP points is 'super easy'. 😆

Edited

150 rp IS pretty easy......

12 minutes ago, Lexi said:

Yeah because 100-150 RP points is 'super easy'. 😆

I agree, it isn't that easy. 

I think we need to look at how to put a slow down on 'farming' these points.

Farming them isn't easy at all, but the amount for non-interaction could be cut by 80-90%.  Forum logs and interaction with others is fine because you are playing the game.  Journals written off-line and cut and pasted shouldn't be gaining so much.

@Archbishop Monk Though I understand where you're coming from, some people can only play during certain times so forcing them to only gain standard points for just interacting with people wouldn't be fair if there's rarely someone online at the same time as yourself. Having journals/notes getting points may be the only way, or the majority way of those players getting them. By making them gain fewer points for journals and such just makes character development stagnate. I'd say keep that part as is because a smaller player base is already limiting in and of itself.

Farming RP points is going to be very difficult. If a person wants to farm them by writing notes and such, they may as well just be left alone anyways. I say this because the average character seems to only last a month or less, so unless they accumulate them quickly, I don't see it being a huge issue unless they can get to 500+ in a relatively short time.

@Tantangel I was looking at the total number of journals, not just journals themselves.  I understand people not playing in your timezone.  I understand that you also can't interact with everyone due to many reasons.  But, I am highly against someone writing 10 journals off-line and then posting them online.  It is different if you write one or two while you are online playing or even post one or two every now and again.  But, to address what @Ulmusdorn and others have expressed, if people are 'farming' it that is different from RP.  If you are posting changes in your player, what is affecting those changes?  Did you experience something?

I don't read other peoples journals so I can't say what is actually going on.  But, if there is a char with 40 hours in with 90 journals, that may be a problem we need to address.

You cut journal rewards to 1-2 per I'm probably done ever developing rp. Every time my rp heavily involved other characters they either quit, or the rp was already written and I was just the stand in for a predetermined outcome. The journal system gives me the ability to maintain rp  without having to rely on players. I already deal with a stupid amount of borderline ooc in the form of people telling me my own rp restrictions. I'm not putting my rp advancement in their hands too.

 

No offense, but I cannot stand when rp is just me standing there letting someone say a pre planned speech. Very rarely do you get organic reactions in those planned sessions because most people are working towards a goal so their rp has to work towards that goal. You don't have character epiphanies, it's just someone monologuing.

3 minutes ago, 'tarako said:

No offense, but I cannot stand when rp is just me standing there letting someone say a pre planned speech. Very rarely do you get organic reactions in those planned sessions because most people are working towards a goal so their rp has to work towards that goal. You don't have character epiphanies, it's just someone monologuing.

I find this highly ironic. PM me @'tarako if you want to know why.

I don't believe this is an issue. There aren't that many journals being written. Some write more than others and some none at all.

28 minutes ago, Archbishop Monk said:

But, to address what @Ulmusdorn and others have expressed, if people are 'farming' it that is different from RP.  If you are posting changes in your player, what is affecting those changes?  Did you experience something?

 

Well... Journals are supposed to be a tool to further the understanding of a character. From journals we can tell why people have reacted in a certain way. 

However we often find that journals are some massive back story (which is fine) but not entirely relevant to current play. So they should be awarded little imo. 

Talking about how your life was as a child is all good if you're applying for Demon/Avatar and want to set the tone... For a 50 just doing it for shits and giggles, we would prefer to see you actgively engage in the game in some way.

26 minutes ago, Ulmusdorn said:

I find this highly ironic. PM me @'tarako if you want to know why.

You can find irony.  My point is I let my character rp be organic, while furthering personal plots via journals

Edited