What's the big difference between an evil, neutral, or good combat Monk?
Monk of Gaia? Sounds cool. Any PK balance reason not to open this up?
Neutral monks?
Yes, pk balance wise, there is no protection from neutral. There is protection from evil and good. Monks can lag anyone. Neutral monks could lag anyone and there would be no protection from them at all.
double post.
slight damage tweak against evils and goodies?
I don't think neutral monks would be OP.
We've all fought monks from the opposite align and do you always have protection up?
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Yes.
Don't forget EQ. Neutral monks get access to a greater variety of EQ.
What ever that means.
In my view the Monks requirements should be Non-Chaotic. Not, non neutral.
It would also be interesting more Lawful/Chaotic eq restriction. Of course favoring Lawful characters, the only ones that suffer a penalty due to inability to initiate combat in cities.
Yes.
Don't forget EQ. Neutral monks get access to a greater variety of EQ.
What ever that means.
That's not true.
Lawfuls, especially Tribunals don't need ANY EXTRA HELP!
Anyway, how we feeling about the neutral monk idea? Should I just go for it and see if the imms will let it happen?
Lawfuls, especially Tribunals don't need ANY EXTRA HELP!
Anyway, how we feeling about the neutral monk idea? Should I just go for it and see if the imms will let it happen?
I've seen two people try and fail. But it always comes down to RP, I guess. With proper RP you can do anything.
well there have been a neutral monk before, and I think he got toned down, but you are more than welcomed to try and apply for one.
Why not? BLMs can be neutral, so why not monks?
If you apply for something, you usually get 'toned' (gimped) to the point where it will only be for a 100% RP char.
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Is there any doubt about this?
You will be toned down like there is no tomorrow. After the IMMs are done with you, the only thing your character will be good for is RP.
It has been stated before, unusual combos are to be RP oriented only, and IMMs will make sure the only thing you can do is RP
Not just that, but once you kill one or two characters, people will start talking how OP your combo is and you will eventually be toned down AGAIN.
I only wonder what our drow monk friend lost. I don't even want to imagine.
I may be mistaken but there has been atleast one neutral monk. A herald if I remember, was it Red??? Share your experience with Kaboomer if it was please.
As far as tone downs to uncommon combinations, I have seen it first hand. With a goodie drow warrior, I lost warcry, mace, whip, and berzerk.(not too terrible) Keep in mind being a good drow is gimped from the start, most of the common goodie wares are silver or mithril.
With a good drow ninja, I gave up almost all Ninja skills except shadow art, seriously almost All of them. No hide, no detections, ofcourse no spells, no caltrops or grapple, and no dusts. Eshaine left me with strangle. (this alone kept people at bay, they were not certain that I could not study and assassinate. So gimped you would be, but only you will know the limits of your handicap. Keep it to yourself and you will be fine. That said, do not let worry of poor combat ability with your dream combo keep you from pursuing it. Enjoy.
BTW, its nice to be back. Took a nice long vacation, mised you all.
There was a demon monk in 1.0 - unsure if he lost any skills but I'm sure he said he had his con set to 6.
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Red's monk was good - but Rped as neutral forever as an agent of balance - when he was made neutral he lost the ability to empower either offensive or defensive - therefore making him 100% unplayable from a pk perspective as a monk - but then he wasn't really a pk character.