Berserkers

The logs I posted are losing logs, I rarely post win logs honestly. The main thing is, my logs usally show mistakes I made, that are correctable, in both cases it was weapon choice, I should have been using a magical polearm in both instances, instead of the choices I took.

I never meant my comment to be an attack at anyone, more of a suggestion that if you do not like the way a certain class works (by you I mean anyone) then maybe you need to rethink the workings of the class, not suggest changes to the class.

Zerks are an extreme finesse class, I see them very similar to BMGs. YOu can either play them, or you cannot. Warriors can only exceed damage if the zerk is auto raging, or using whips. Most of my losses came to people exploiting zerk vulns (panic, lack of whip and staff, or FG vuln). Dks can only match the damage output if prepped, have good malforms, and a mean charmie, even then it is not a guarantee. Necros rely on pets, and again unless you have 3 strong pets, your not doing it. Rangers can potentially deal the damage, however it is not as reliable. Monks and Blms both require prep for the situation, catch a monk or blm who is prepped wrong, you have found a dead man walking.

As far as maintaining magic weapons, I was having a hard time, but that is my fault. I was unable to deal with the Savant clerics, and it was costing me. Once I got a grip on how to use skills, I did MUCH better.

from my understanding all a necro has to do is cast blind, flee, return... unless your in a certain cabal, your gonna have to kill all his pets.

meh, necros are not so clean cut. The tactics involved may seem repetitive, they require finesse to play, you have to watch the hp of 5 mobs, and yours, not just one.

Sorry Emp. I completely, and utterly, disagree with you.

Zerks do not have even remotely "the best offense." To even get decent offense they have to have fantastic armor and the perfect weapon setup.

Now, to say Zerks can't win is silly. However like Celerity said, in a situation where a Zerk won, a Warrior could've done it with half the eq/cabal powers.

Even a mastered rage fails rather frequently. Not even bringing up headbutt haymaker.... Because those skills are ridiculous.

EDIT: I should mention I meant ridiculous as in they fail FAR more often than they succeed. These skills should not be less reliable than an assassination...

I cant since it involves a select few weapons' date=' and a weapon socket item.[/quote']

I have no idea what he's refferencing, but it never made sense to me that there was equipment that unbalanced classes. If a class is not meant to have dual parry, why have weapons that give the skill? If a class is meant to stay blind for more than two rounds, why have a select few weapons and a weapon only socket item that only allows them to be blind for two rounds?

I understand the attraction for rare, amazing gear. But not at the sake of balance.... of which this sounds (sounds, I have no experience with this one) to be.

a-g

Dude... This is basic gear hes talking about. Hehe. It's not all that great and everyone and their mother that has a socketable weapons uses the damn thing.

Please. It's the ember. If this is really hidden knowledge then edit my post. I'm sorry, but crap. Let's not keep this basic thing a secret.

So you're saying that a (male) Berserker's strength comes primarily from the size of their member, literally?

"Yeah, I'm packing some serious meat. I reckon I've got this fight on lock-down.."

Dey

Not just zerkers but all male classes...and ogre females.

Please. It's the ember. If this is really hidden knowledge then edit my post. I'm sorry' date=' but crap. Let's not keep this basic thing a secret.[/quote']

Gasp! Ban him!

I think we need to be a little less restrictive with our information. I don't think we should be posting GEAR walk-throughs but we need to be able to talk to learn. Maybe we could have a section where only senior members can view and post. I feel like not talking about a "common" rare item is pretty lame.

Im basing my lack of talking about items based on we have to edit the effects of that ember when submitting a PK log.

Im basing my lack of talking about items based on we have to edit the effects of that ember when submitting a PK log.

Yeah, I also think editing PK logs to that extent is pretty lame. I mean, take out the most elite things(maybe?). Of course remove cabal/qclass/qrace.. But items? Lets give the new people something to look and strive for.

This literally only serves to keep newbies down and I for one am against it.

Well Im only adhering to rules that are already in place.

On a side note, perhaps we disagree so much about zerks based on two things.

Number one being, I can play a zerk

Number two being, You can't

Burn?

No burn. You were a minotaur. You were, as I remember, decked.

I was neither.

Besides, give me Kongol vs your Zerk and I'll show you a burn.

I was a fire giant, and I was not "decked" ever.

And anyway, beating a berzerker with a decked warrior isn't a burn, it's what should happen 90% of the time.

You weren't Ototh?

Name one other Zerk that did well?

I heard Fisti did decently.

Fisti did pretty well - which was Nekky.

I thought Emp_newb's warmaster zerker did ok as well lmathr? Or something similar...But yeah saying you can beat a zerker with a warrior is not much of a claim..zerkers have pretty much nothing they can do against a warrior, as long as the warrior has the basics at least.