Solution to losing expensive cabal gear:
Stop dying.
Seriously, cut that out. Whats wrong with you?
Cabal EQ
Ahhhh, the Myrek answer.
I agree with a lot of points here.
-Reduced cost for cabal items would be great.
-Bound items I REALLY like.
-I hate the life insurance option. I think that is semi broken rp to buy that anyhow. Would like to see that one go bye-bye.
you bring back cabal - outfit and have it be equipment thats of a nature that it circumvents what I like to call "general realm rares" (ie brooches, sparkling rings, things of that nature) and we might see a increase in rare availability for non cabaled people. :eek:
Yeah lose Life insurance and instead let us issue a choice of 3 basic sets for a decent amount of CP
Life insurance only really caters to the big dogs in elite suits anyway who, imo, shouldn't need the safety net. Having it so that the newer pkers who are learning the ropes of cabal warfare can issue a set decent enough to pk in would benefit the PB far more overall than making sure a half dozen pk monsters can keep their set imo.
Yeah lose Life insurance and instead let us issue a choice of 3 basic sets for a decent amount of CP
Life insurance only really caters to the big dogs in elite suits anyway who, imo, shouldn't need the safety net. Having it so that the newer pkers who are learning the ropes of cabal warfare can issue a set decent enough to pk in would benefit the PB far more overall than making sure a half dozen pk monsters can keep their set imo.
Well said. Life insurance is the pits.
all you need is a light' date=' head piece, torso, legs, bracers and a weapon. if you can't reEQ at 50 in these, you should have stayed at 30. [/quote']
Well, that's assuming that they learn anything at 30. Remember, the game is at 50 now.
Yeah lose Life insurance and instead let us issue a choice of 3 basic sets for a decent amount of CP
Life insurance only really caters to the big dogs in elite suits anyway who, imo, shouldn't need the safety net. Having it so that the newer pkers who are learning the ropes of cabal warfare can issue a set decent enough to pk in would benefit the PB far more overall than making sure a half dozen pk monsters can keep their set imo.
Life insurance can even stuff out. When you're the one in a five on one, you'll want life insurance. W/o life insurance, you're looking at the option of logging off or the option of dying a lot. With it, you can still fight and have fun. Maybe cabal items were more important then... the cabal war has changed. I don't know the rules now.
If you want newer players to learn the ropes... I don't know what to say. I am concerned that this will sound like a flame. If you're a newer player who needs to learn the ropes, why are you in a cabal? You shouldn't have been inducted! It used to be an honor to join a cabal... a goal to fight for.
Don't get me wrong. I learned a ton when I was cabaled. I learned it at level 30 or 36, not by getting dumped into the war at 50. The old system was far from perfect, but it was good enough to create the characters you have nightmares about and most of the players you consider elite.
I'm old I guess.
I learned a ton when I was cabaled. I learned it at level 30 or 36' date=' not by getting dumped into the war at 50. The old system was far from perfect, but it was good enough to create the characters you have nightmares about and most of the players you consider elite.[/quote']
/signed
Yeah lose Life insurance and instead let us issue a choice of 3 basic sets for a decent amount of CP
Life insurance only really caters to the big dogs in elite suits anyway who, imo, shouldn't need the safety net. Having it so that the newer pkers who are learning the ropes of cabal warfare can issue a set decent enough to pk in would benefit the PB far more overall than making sure a half dozen pk monsters can keep their set imo.
+1.
That being said - I think cabal equipment should be made untouchable to anyone but that cabal. Only a cabal member could take it - which is very unlikely to happen.
Yes, you basically get eq for life if you're willing to spend the cps - but lets face it, cabal eq isn't as good as the best pieces out there so if you're that good you probably don't want it anyway. Its better than average - and exactly what caballed players should have access to. They have extra powers and eq because they have extra respnosibilities.
L-A
I hate the life insurance option. I think that is semi broken rp to buy that anyhow. Would like to see that one go bye-bye.
I agree. But with the loss of life insurance we **must **also take away assassinate for ninjas. I've never been a fan of opening yourself up to assassinate because of cabal warfare.
I agree. But with the loss of life insurance we **must **also take away assassinate for ninjas. I've never been a fan of opening yourself up to assassinate because of cabal warfare.
Are you kidding? Mega-nerf a perfectly good class just beacuse the coddling blanket has been removed for people who want to keep their leet suit? Being in a cabal doesn't mean it's impossible to not get studied.
Dey
Simple enough also, just make the areas within X amount of steps away from cabals no hide.
you get yourself caught out of there, that is lack of preparation, not cabal warfare;)
I agree. But with the loss of life insurance we **must **also take away assassinate for ninjas. I've never been a fan of opening yourself up to assassinate because of cabal warfare.
This makes no sense...
Why should cabaled people have an easier time avoid assassination? It's a skill that is intended to be used the way it is. It is not abused. And it takes longer than, "Oh, look, there is Joe the Knight. I'm gonna walk in and then assassinate him!" It takes time, preparation, and anyone can easily avoid it if they use their head.
Ninja's dropping someone with on hit is not cheap. Getting to keep your gear after death no matter what? I never liked it. But that is just me.
a-g
ag,
I would have agreed with you before I played Llyros. Too often, Llyros was the only Savant online while there were 3-5 Warmasters on. Those were the blood thirsty day with mercy towards none. They would all attack. And there's nothing wrong with that. But I would have not been inclined to fight if I knew I was risking everything taking on a hoard of enemies. Maybe it should be toned down. I haven't been cabaled in years. Maybe it should cost more. Maybe it shouldn't protect non-rares. (You don't lose your cool shinies but you still may need to go re-equip some.)
Also, life insurance makes more sense than protecting corpses from looters.
Also, life insurance makes more sense than protecting corpses from looters.
This also keeps eq balance within the levels. We dont need level 15's chasing around cabal'd 50's and swiping winter/deso/gear armor because htey can just auto loot as soon as one dies.
ag,
I would have agreed with you before I played Llyros. Too often, Llyros was the only Savant online while there were 3-5 Warmasters on. Those were the blood thirsty day with mercy towards none. They would all attack. And there's nothing wrong with that. But I would have not been inclined to fight if I knew I was risking everything taking on a hoard of enemies. Maybe it should be toned down. I haven't been cabaled in years. Maybe it should cost more. Maybe it shouldn't protect non-rares. (You don't lose your cool shinies but you still may need to go re-equip some.)
Also, life insurance makes more sense than protecting corpses from looters.
I guess my opinion is if you're in a cabal, you're there to risk everything (no matter the odds) to move your ideas forward. If the most important thing to you is your rare equipment, then don't join a cabal. Cabal life should be like sex: Violent, angry, some choking involved, and all together disappointingly short.... and after you're done, you've paid for it in some way.
And you spanked me across the realms with Llyros, killed me many (many, many, many) times. I think I got you all of... oh... not even once. 
You held your own pretty well from what I remember.
Anyways. If anything, I think rare gear should not be protected, and rather that mundane stuff should be (if anything is at all). Rares are supposed to be circulated. They are the only valuable thing in the game. Gold isn't, potions aren't really, but rare and unique armor? They are the only thing in the game that has a limited quantity and therefor of any real value.
Also, I hate the idea of a 15 running around in level 50 rares. I think rare equipment should have a range on it as to where you can wear it. So a level 50 rare could only be worn by people at 35 and up, anyone lower? No dice.
a-g
RE AG:
This idea doesnt work. At all. Let me explain.
There are some classes which spike very very high and would be NIGH impossible to kill if you couldnt keep some resemblence of eq together.
Lets use... Martinieus. Hugely powerful and if he wanted you dead or captured you would be in most cases unless you played a very well thought out and prepared game. However against the odds of winning, you would not have much chance at all - his ability to keep you naked 100% of the time would infact make him a god.
With the use of cabal equipment in the sense suggested, or life insurance, one would have the ability to remain somewhat in the game. With the chance that you may actually achieve some string of unfortunate events (on marty's part) and bring him down (hopefully without the protection of life insurance - if so then thats how the cookie crumbles.)
Without it I would HAVE to say that some cabal/class/race/qrace combo's would have to be rebalanced because the powerspike would be too huge if they could keep their enemies naked enough to not be re-equiped.
So, how are they going to keep you naked? They cannot force you to fight. What, they attack your cabal and take your item? If you're recently dead and naked, why are you bothering to try and fight them off? Go, get eq. Spend an hour or so doing so. Once you've got an okay set again, THEN you go and try to get your item back.