I think it'd be nifty to not only disguise your class but disguise your race as well. Of course it would have the same limitations as your disguising as a different class, IE: only regular races and no qraces.
That and perhaps a more consistant name title so that when Bards/Thieves disguise it'll be the equal rank of the other classes. So a 50 Bard disguises as a Monk, it'll be the 50 Monk title and not so random of a title. Thoughts?
I like the race idea. For the RP reasons anyway.
With a small pbase diguise isnt really going to fool anyone for long. I think it is more for sneaking into various guilds to rob an unsuspecting person who thinks they are safe. I think disguise could use one change and that is to allow the thief or bard to disguise as a blademaster. I dont see why a blm should be exempt from the disguise list, it is yet one more advantage to the blm giving them a slightly safer guildhouse than any other class.
I think of it as a PK advantage if done with races. Think of the classes that PK based on races, IE: Blademasters and monks. A Thief or Bard who's attacked by these classes could disguise their race and thus have the upper hand. Blademasters already a farely strong class to begin with will lose the advantage because they may have a 130 anatomy in Human and think they're fighting a human thief/bard, but in fact the thief/bard may be an Elf and his anatomy on Elves might be 83. So all the while he keeps trying to critical strike his brain and it keeps telling him that he can't. There's also another class out there that can on racial fights as well. So just a thought though. I was bored.
I like the idea, and I think the blm idea is more of an oversight and the fact that they are a fairly new class is the reason why you can't disguise as them
Exactly, if you misspell a class name, it says the same thing as it does for blademasters. I'm just assuming it's not in the code.
I think of it as a PK advantage if done with races. Think of the classes that PK based on races' date=' IE: Blademasters and monks. A Thief or Bard who's attacked by these classes could disguise their race and thus have the upper hand. Blademasters already a farely strong class to begin with will lose the advantage because they may have a 130 anatomy in Human and think they're fighting a human thief/bard, but in fact the thief/bard may be an Elf and his anatomy on Elves might be 83. So all the while he keeps trying to critical strike his brain and it keeps telling him that he can't. There's also another class out there that can on racial fights as well. So just a thought though. I was bored.[/quote']
I don't agree with it affecting anats. Even if you put on a mask you're still human. I like the idea for the ability to try and disguise a vuln, but not for actually CHANGING the race.
They weren't saying that if your an Elf BMG that with that disguise affect it would change you to a Human BMG... they were just saying that the BLM would THINK he was fighting a human when really he was fighting an Elf disguised as a human... it's all in perception.
Exactly. If you fight a Human Bard but they're disguised as an Ogre Bard, they're still Human. So even though they're still human, the Blademaster will be thinking they're fighting an Ogre all the while trying to use their critical strikes as high as their Ogre anatomy is, but it wont work because their human anatomy might be lower than the Ogre anatomy. So you're still basically disguising your vuln, it just tends to trick a few more people rather than one or two with the class disguise. Granted once the Blademaster starts learning Human anatomy from an Ogre Bard, the Blademaster will finally know he's fighting a Human, but he wont know that until he learns more or can't learn more from said race. So again, you're only disguising the race, not actually becoming another race.
A way around this would be by using the know alignment spell. Reason why would be so that it makes it even more useful than before so that maybe more people would use it to figure out the race of a thief/bard. Meaning that disguise will let you disguise your race OR your class and not both at the same time. Get what I'm saying now?
Oh, sorry. Ok.
I'm not too keen on the idea. Just because a Gnome Thief or Bard making himself into a believable Ogre Warrior is too strange for me. Maybe limiting it to size of the current player.
Sorry if it was already mentioned, but I just am too tired to read the whole thread.
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I'm fairly certain that disguise doesn't alter what race you appear to be...
Noooo.... they are proposing it does.
A Gnome disguising as an Ogre wouldn't make his size change. Say if the Gnome were to disguise himself as an Ogre, that if you examined him/considered him you'd see that he is clearly not an Ogre. Though I wouldn't be opposed to it to be limited to the same size race as the person already is as I did think about abuse if they were to disguise themselves as a giant. That could easily be coded into it I'd think. Problem would be though if the thief was enlarged or shrunk he'd automatically lose the disguise of his current race and automatically become his actual race. So I could see that working as well.
No no..
No no, it'd be great. Just picture a tiny little gnome on stilts with a big cloak...
Yeah, I can see how it could affect race too. Maybe make it so that the more different the race is, the harder it is for it to work. Make it like hide so you aren't sure if it works or not.
To the solve the random level problem, just make it so you can input a target rank (within 
to disguise as.
Of course add blademasters to the disguise list...it is like a single line of code or something to put in. I wonder if psis are still there? In fact, maybe allow all races and classes to be on the list, but again put a penalty on trying to disguise as some of them.
Trying to disguise as that demon battlemage might not be the best idea, but why forbid someone from -trying-?
Instead of making things impossible, just give the a low chance of success and let people try them if they want.
Psis haven't been in there since like 2.0. I recall trying to disguise as Coterparens as various classes, and I recall Psis I couldn't do. I'd rather see it more believable than something way rediculous though. I wouldn't want to see a gnome on stilts, maybe a very wrinkled gnome-Ogre perhaps since he wouldn't really be able to disguise perfectly as a giant unless he managed to find a few +size things. Perhaps a VERY small chance of being able to disguise as a qrace, but not a really good chance.
Undead should be easy to disguise as...
..Hell, I bet most the people that play this mud could do it easily. How often do you dorks go outside?
Wouldn't adding
case 17: break;
fix the whole Blademaster disguise?
Undead should be easy to disguise as...
..Hell, I bet most the people that play this mud could do it easily. How often do you dorks go outside?
As rarely as possible lad, as rarely as possible. And even then I wear spf 60 sunblock.