Ok,
so evil sliths got some nice eyelids for battle. Neutral sliths gained the nice poison for battle. What do we do with the good ones?!
Anything possible to help them somehow in battle like giving them a little bonus to another weapon (sword/mace with mastery at 103) or bonus to a skill?
I suggest a small boost to regeneration. Always envisioned sliths akin to lizards being able to regenerate lost limbs.
Goodie slith get chameleon.
Yes, it saves you somehow, but nothing that helps you in a real battle.
Because eyelids is really strong race skill, which makes dirt completely useless sometimes. The new skill of poison is strong as well, making you gain a free round of sleep while enemy is poisoned and cannot see to get a single item to cure it, if does not have cure poison spell. So, all that goodies have is chameleoon to run and hide? I think they deserve something for battle, correct me if I am wrong.
17 hours ago, Venom said:
correct me if I am wrong.
You are wrong.
Just because one gets this, the other doesn't need to get something with the exact same purpose. that helps in the exact same areas.
FL is not like that.
Chameleon is pretty useful in it's area.
You can even argue it's more useful that the evil sliths' ability, since that can be obtain with an item.
Couple chameleon with hide and invisibility. It means you need to stick around in one room, but nobody's going to find you except through reveal hidden and AoEs. Meaning you can pretty well sleep at your leisure if you're smart about where you do it.
I believe chameleon is actually camouflage, so I think only hunters and druids can see you during camouflaged.
I agree with you, f0xx, it is something that can be replaced with a single item. I think you talk about adeptus's face, but what we do loose using that item, in comparison of a slith that has eyelids naturally or other face armor?
adeptus's face - gain socket, loose 1 dex (gain "eyelids")
Let's compare this to to knight and nexus face armor:
a Gruesome Mask - hitroll 2, hp 35, mana 50. Gain fear on proc.
the Vanguard's Visor - hitroll 4, cure blind in proc.
I know that you are familiar with these items very well, but in order to gain "eyelids" as lightwalker you needs to sacrifice cure blind in proc and 4 hitroll (more than half perk athletic) just to gain what evil ones gains by natural choice and you gain a socket, which can be 1hit for example and 1dam, if you are VERY lucky to find it. While evil sliths can gain ADDITIONAL 2 hitroll, 35 health, some mana and the chance to make fear, while they already have these eyelids by natural choice, no luck to find items needed, just go and buy.
Having chameleon is a good chance to camouflage (hide or whatever it is) and gain rest, but after that you need to go back in the fight and the real things actually happens during the fight itself or with skills that helps you keep fightning, not helps you hide. So in this case I think light sliths are somewhat nerfed.
I would love to see other people opinions as well.
Lol.. Eyelips..
eyeLIDs are not the same as that face, one removes and the other prevents.
You want the good sliths to enjoy dirt protection? Perhaps consider a different route.
Class choices. As an Example. Good allows for Bard, Neutral allows for Berserker, and Evil allows for Ninja.
edit: Also, no one noticed but it was broken for a long time. Adventurer sliths had eyelids, period. I logged it and it was fixed.
1 minute ago, Trick said:
Lol.. Eyelips..
I have no idea from where this "eyelips" comes to my mind. It had been edited :)
Disregard.
1 hour ago, Venom said:
...but in order to gain "eyelids" as lightwalker you needs to sacrifice....
Yes, you have to sacrifice some minor stats and procs that don't always work.
The thing is, you can gain it, via item.
We can argue which one is more valuable to have, but if you don't want to fight blind, then don't fight blind. On the other hand, chamaleon can save your life, and no other race has access to it.
1 hour ago, Venom said:
I believe chameleon is actually camouflage, so I think only hunters and druids can see you during camouflaged.
It is camouflage, so rangers and druids, yes. It's why I mentioned hide specifically.
If you've got both camouflage and hide on you, you're not going to be seen by any one of keen sight or hide in particular.
I'd also like to add you can chameleon yourself anywhere. In a forest. In the city. On water. Anywhere. Which is handy, though it does make the camo/hide a bit trickier.
17 minutes ago, Magick said:
I'd also like to add you can chameleon yourself anywhere. In a forest. In the city. On water. Anywhere. Which is handy, though it does make the camo/hide a bit trickier.
Are you 100% on this?
The last good slith I played, which was YEARS ago, could only chameleon in rooms you could camouflage in.
So I was limited to forests and some "hill" or w/e the light brown tiles are called.
You can chameleons anywhere. I had done it at cabal altars to surprise murder circle, on water when I ran out of mv being chased. It is not camouflage, and you can't do anything while chameleoned iirc because you're changing color to match surroundings so when you move your colors don't match
17 minutes ago, Manual Labour said:
Are you 100% on this?
The last good slith I played, which was YEARS ago, could only chameleon in rooms you could camouflage in.
So I was limited to forests and some "hill" or w/e the light brown tiles are called.
Yes. Last good slith I had was well over five years ago. You can't do it mounted and as I (and Tarako) said, you can't move, but it's anywhere.
Also, brown rooms can be fields, hills and mountains. Which is why you can camouflage in some brown rooms but not all.