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I cannot understand why the qclasses and the qraces must be so powerful.There is just no point in giving something powerful to someone strong,making him unstoppable.Most of the time Qclass or Qrace is given to an expirienced player so I suggest tonning all q****s down.Give them to expirienced players but tone them down a bit.You collect your gear with days and some kind of overpowered idiot walks in cast spell and I am dead.Okay I know that it is one of the hardest muds but this is reducilous.If I fight psionicist for example I must chase like mad,be prepared and insane decked to have the chances to slay him,all he need to do is just cast one spell and I die.You call this balance,right?If you gonna give qclasses and qraces things to players beyond avarage skill level what is the point of fighting him?He/she is not only better player than me but he has insane race or class.Somone has completed one easy quest and wrote one silly application,is it really needed this two things to make him absolute beast?Qclass or qrace is a matter of your RP,not matter of killing streaks like 100 kills 1 death?

Ermm psionicists alot harder to play then you make out. You make it seem like a walk in the park? Learn how to fight them, they can hurt you about as much as a plasm beast if you know how to fight against them.

How to learn to fight them?When a psionicist condeath my character or when I ask in the forum and get banned?But you still not get my point.I am talking of every qclass and qrace ,not only psi have one hit kill spell.I swear that a long time ago when I was playing cleric one psionicist attacked me and casted one single spell.Man I was healing myself and I still died WTF?One ****ing spell man took me around 1200hp

The first one. The qstuff is a little bit more powerful yes, but they are not impossible to beat. I am NEVER fully decked, only been to winter twice, gear once, and never even seen adeptus or had any of his stuff. And I still do decent at 50, most of my deaths are cause of my own screwups. Psionicsts are easier to kill than vamps in my opinion, just more people know how to kill vamps.

With Ehranari I was a stalker right?I am supposed to be a vampire slayer or something like that,I have around four spells for them and with all spells casted on Sirican caltrapped nerved and when I was fully prepared he killed me at daytime man.Stalkers are vampire,demon and avatar food,not slayers.That is why I gave up with the ninja,because being stalker is very stupid.You have to fight overpowered idiots.It is the same like bounty hunter unable to collect one head.

that spell was changed after beta, it isn't as powerful anymore. So where alot of the spells that were in beta. I fought Kaldashar alot, and he was insanely powerful. When I got my psi and had a mess around though, all those insanely powerful spells had turned insanely weakarse (well, under the right conditions they could work ALRIGHT)

Psionicists are up **** creek when it comes to fighting paladins, clerics or anything else that can last decent time in battle. Also up **** creek with anyone who is dressed decently.

I sat in the arena for hours one day just dueling with a cleric, trying to work out tactics. Finally came across one that gave me a success rate of about... mmm... 10%...

On a rather scabbily equipped cleric at that.

You told me that psionicist are easy to kill okay let me see...

A psi walks in cast a spell on you and run away.You chase him right behind him but he dissapears unknown how.Then you sleep and you understand that your hp is slipping away.After some hours you have lost 1200hp and you have died.WTF is that?I don't care if it is beta I have died two times what does it means if it would be removed later after I won't return my deaths?Liches are the same thing,very powerful but beta,If your character is killed five time by liches noone will return your deaths right?

Fighting a vampire during the day time with a ninja is still a very uphill battle. Under certain conditions vampires can retain ~75% of there power even during the day, and even when not under these conditions, by experience, a vampire still has a chance to take out a ninja if they are sufficiently equipped.

That certain psi spell no longer kills you, under any circumstances, and is very easily dealt with, if you know how. Experiment.

Fighting a vampire during the day time with a ninja is still a very uphill battle. Under certain conditions vampires can retain ~75% of there power even during the day' date=' and even when not under these conditions, by experience, a vampire still has a chance to take out a ninja if they are sufficiently equipped.[/quote']

Agreed. Those Stalker skills will certaintly help, but in a melee battle, Ninja VS Vampire is going to be very hard anyway.

The thing about Qraces/Qclasses is that it still takes skill to play with them. I am by no means a great PKer but I have PKed against Qraced/Qclassed people who are slightly less skilled, and haven't utilized their potential or covered their weaknesses and found it easy to fight some degree. The people who are rocking the Pbase at the minute with their vamps, liches and whatnot, would still be doing a pretty damn fine job with most other classes in the game. I think someone did say Vampire itself magnifies every error you make, so you need to be skilled to play with those. And I have had a couple of Undead's, one of them played horribly and the other didn't do too bad.

At the end of the day, they are strong in a skilled, knowledgable players hand, but what isn't?

Dey

Undead are rouge killers, always have been.

You have played vampire as I have.We both know that they are unstoppable even in chimera items.I wanted to post this topic because I think that it is stupid to throw powerful combo character to expirienced player.Not to mention that some of the previous vampires have cheated.Like you Tontekopf if you remember your vampire Azaghtoth.I don't know how you became vampire after there was not vampire quest.I don't know how you had a neutral cleric with both evil aura and ray of truth as well.

Wasn't that a long time ago though? Any comments about beta psi spells and old vamp quests (or lack of) would be moot because it's not like that anymore. And to say someone cheated to get their vamp because there was no quest would be a bit out, I am sure there was some sort of process to get them, otherwise they'd be handed out like lollipops.

Again, I'll say it again, these top-end skilled players would still be rocking the playerbase if they were playing non-qraces/qclasses more than likely. And another point, not a single player in the MUD is invulnerable at all. Even those who are considered among the best PKers around at the minute (IG/IC) have been slain, in 1v1 combat. By non-qclasses/qraces might I add.

Dey

Unstoppable against rogues in chimera eq, perhaps. Go against a warrior, cleric, invoker and a myriad of other classes in chimera your ****ed. Loucheran, Sslandith, my slith warriors both owned decked vampires in mithril. Grumblor, my ogre warrior, took Cariousus in mithril and a powerstaff. Some classes just have their banes.

In my opinion, a cleric using only spell turning has a good chance of still trumping a psi.

You just cant expect to kill everyone with the same amount of ease.

Yes there is some process but I won't mention it because I don't want to get banned again for revealing truth.

Lay off on the flames first of all man. And vampires are NOT unstoppable. I've one rounded a vampire before, have never managed that against any other class, and I did not have a qclass or qrace. All qstuff is killable if you know how. Want to know how? Experiament. Don't come here and flame. If you have an issue, put it in the prayer forum.

Give me a lich and I will walk agains your Loucheran like a tank,even in chimera stuff.

I don't flame,I have killed several vampires as well.I am just asking why one quest and one application makes even one newbie so much badass?

You have played vampire as I have.We both know that they are unstoppable even in chimera items.I wanted to post this topic because I think that it is stupid to throw powerful combo character to expirienced player.Not to mention that some of the previous vampires have cheated.Like you Tontekopf if you remember your vampire Azaghtoth.I don't know how you became vampire after there was not vampire quest.I don't know how you had a neutral cleric with both evil aura and ray of truth as well.

Pretty sure there was a vampire quest for Azaghtoth's time. Bout the first person (or possibly even THE first) to do the quest 2.0. I'd had a vampire before Azaghtoth though in 1.0, where there was no quest. I also had 2 vampires after Azaghtoth.

Liches are still new, and probably at the minute there are only the lich players who know of their weakness. At the minute the general consensus appears to be that lich > melee. Let liches settle in and I'm sure anyone skilled with a warrior would take you up with that, Nomak.

Dey