Make them viable in PK by making them a true song oriented class. I hate this "jack of all trades" class. In my opinion it was a quick fix at the time. The class lost a LOT of its originality when this happened and I think it was for the worse. This class has the potential to be extremely unique and fun, instead, we just gave it skills that really don't matter. IE:Pugil w/o two handed? Why?
In fact, let's stop updating the classes that are fine and start fixing the ones that no one plays.
No one plays? Come on now... 
On a more serious note, I agree 100%.
Does that mean we should start suggesting more ideas for Druids and Healers?
Does that mean we should start suggesting more ideas for Druids and Healers?
I play healers, but every time I do I start seeing complaints about healers being OP. Maybe I should play another. A non dyslexic this time eh Anume? Ha!!
What if we gave Bards protective shield?
Would that work?
Lmao yes give them prot shield
I actually thought about this very deeply while taking a dump.
Bashing classes are, Warriors, Berserkers, DK's and Necromancers.
Many classes have protective shield and it's not the end of the world for those classes. The only problem I can imagine is the synergy of Protective shield with HIDE. It can suddenly make them extremely hard to kill.
Berserkers can Headbut and Haymaker their protective shield. Bards don't have shield block.
DK's don't need to bash, they can cast and do other stuff.
Warriors are the ones that really lose in this upgrade.
Necromancers, can cast other spells to somewhat lag them.
Preventing hide for zerks is about haymakering their protective shield and bodyslaming. Remenber, they can headbut to prevent recast.
DK's can poison and use weapons to Faerie fire them.
Necros can faerie fire or acid blast to prevent them from hiding.
Warriors are stuck with faerie fire weapons like the onyx lance, and poison weapons/gear.
It won't make bards more offensive, just make them live longer.
They go from joke of all classes to a extremely hard to kill cockroaches.
Just like Good clerics with portal.
They go from joke of all classes to a extremely hard to kill cockroaches.
Just like Good clerics with portal.
You're pitch is to make MORE cockroaches??
I don't think Bards need to be more survivable. They need to be more viable in pk, not escaping IMO.
Give them two handed. Optional instruments, but a well tuned instrument increases spell level for songs. Make songs count as similar spells for effects such as shield of words. Upgrade tune to reduce chance to give effectively useless bonus stats and increase good effects, adding a rare song level bonus.
Give them a song for faerie fog too
Let all races be bards. Every races has songs of battle, and glory, and every race has stories told about their ancestors.
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Never heard of drow songs
They're the screams and torments of the dying. 
Never heard of drow songs
This might change if we had drow bards. Just saying.
please help the bards. 
Make them viable in PK by making them a true song oriented class. I hate this "jack of all trades" class. In my opinion it was a quick fix at the time. The class lost a LOT of its originality when this happened and I think it was for the worse. This class has the potential to be extremely unique and fun, instead, we just gave it skills that really don't matter. IE:Pugil w/o two handed? Why?
In fact, let's stop updating the classes that are fine and start fixing the ones that no one plays.
cosign
In my mind this isn't a quick change like changing charge or switching werebeast weapons around. An entire overhaul of the bard class to make it like a bard. The class needs to be completely song oriented that can be sung in combat MUCH easier. Rehearse is a joke and is a pain in the *** to use. You're telling me other melee classes can dual wield AND shoot a bow, but a bard can't sing? Or a dark knight can cast and swing swords and crap, but a bard can't sing? Makes NO sense at all.
The thing that makes a bard a bard, their songs, is lame. Songs are terrible. You get a few buffs, but nothing great. I can get the same thing via consumables on a class that has stronger output. Songs need to be reworked/remade so they are scarier and do more damage. With the addition of evil bards you can even have "dark" songs that make them different from goodie or neutral bards.
DIRGE OF THE DESICCATED.
Syntax: sing 'Dirge of the Desiccated'
Not always are the songs of the bard jovial and full of mirth. Those that are devote to the Gods of Darkness and ways of evil are taught a song that is capable of calling forth the long dead and deceased to cause illness to their target with a sickly embrace.
Hearken unto me, those of heath and hearth.
Heed my call, pulled free from earth.
Reach out and pull them close, the living so eager to hurt.
A virulent embrace, both heaven and hell.
A sickly snuggle, a plague-ridden wail.
Release and return unto sepulcher at my behest,
Back to grave and barrow you will remain,
This eternal place, beyond death's gate, you will rest.
Affect: A random maledictive on your opponent as the ground opens up and they are hugged by a rotting corpse.
IE:
Morlhach is swallowed up in the embrace of a rotting corpse!
Morlhach begins to shiver with disease!
Song I wrote on my duergar bard, Zkrivuur, right before they were allowed to everyone. I was told that it was too difficult/time consuming for songs to be devoted to a single alignment and that I would have to write a song that would be useful across all three alignments. Which, I fully understand, but at the same time I think it limits the uniqueness of the class. An evil bard can have that song, a goodie bard has one that cures the maledictive afflicting them. Neutrals can have, hell, I dunno. Something else.
THIS is what I would really like to see, again.
So special.
Is it possible to create paths for Bard? Or perhaps a quest similar to Werebeasts? Maybe even have a selectable skills versus songs. I don't believe they should be able to cast spells. Bards are songmeisters, storytellers and performers.
This class has the most "fun" potential, and I miss it.
Bards need to be able to sing without the need of an instrument.
If they are going to get changed, that should be the first change.
Rest in peace was the best. I remenber hunting in emerald with a bard, and someone came and killed a group mate. I sing that and we get like insane buff.
Lust one was amazing to.
