Malchaeius Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Time does not make an experienced player. Experience makes an experienced player. It is the difference between, lets take Mircea for example, starting out when the MUD started and still not being to hold his own in PK, vs Despiser, who started significantly later, but could hold his own against Mircea blinded. I can understand your frustration, but your suggestions would not solve your problem. Taking away everyone's character, or taking everyone's rares, or making it so that everyone can have rares, will not solve anything. I am not sure I understand your suggestion about limiting the number of rares that people can wear, or getting rid of the loot restriction on rares. What loot restriction? The only loot restrictions that I am aware of are: the one that prevents out of range people from looting a corpse for a certain amount of time, and anyone below level 15 cannot gain a rare. Removing either of these restrictions would only increase the amount of hoarding that is done by people in the pre-pinnacle ranges. Doing that would make the issue worse in three critical ways: 1. It would deprive the 50s range of the critical equipment that they need to survive. If you think hoarding at 50 is bad, imagine level 10s walking around in full suits of adeptus, taking their time to get to 50. 2. Pre-pin, more specifically in the 30s, equipment is king. Since you do not have access to all your spells, a decked fire zerker, thief, dk (or any of the other niche classes) will win 90% of the time off of eq alone. Hence our restrictions on PK for decked out 30s. 3. Now that less people at 50 have access to the equipment, it will make it even harder to survive for those who do not have this equipment. While I do not claim that the system is perfect, it is working - and it is better than several other alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Back when i was playing my sphinx battemage about 7 months ago i took out one of these decked out guys, and did the classic, get all corpse, put all sack, rinse and repeat method. i look at the corpse and there are 3 uniques sitting there, i go to grab them from it and it says something along the lines of you cannot loot that item. These were all items i have looted before. And I'm in NO way saying the MUD doesn't work, i love it, its one of my favorite games of all time, however I'm just tired of seeing 15 elfs 15 drows 2 ogres 1 halfing when i do a "who". Or watching one decked out nexus dark knight or vampire whipe the entire p-base over and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calron Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 There is not and has never been a restriction on taking every rare from a decked person when they die. The way you describe it, you must be confused with another game or something. Either one or two rares would be unable to be taken (Owner only items, or temporarily bound), or all of the rares would be unable to be taken. There isn't really a realistic case where you would only be able to pick out a few of a decked chars 15 or so rares. EDIT after reading your post: If its a caballed person its possible they bound a few items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 EDIT after reading your post: If its a caballed person its possible they bound a few items. didnt think about that. And on a positave note, I'm glad to see there aren't 50% blademasters 50% everyone else anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crucial Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Time does not make an experienced player. Experience makes an experienced player. I think someones been watching me "PK" I have "been" here for 7 years and pk like someone who just found his first vial some times. If I didnt love it here Id prolly be a master chef or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackwilly21 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Back when i was playing my sphinx battemage about 7 months ago i took out one of these decked out guys, and did the classic, get all corpse, put all sack, rinse and repeat method. i look at the corpse and there are 3 uniques sitting there, i go to grab them from it and it says something along the lines of you cannot loot that item. These were all items i have looted before. And I'm in NO way saying the MUD doesn't work, i love it, its one of my favorite games of all time, however I'm just tired of seeing 15 elfs 15 drows 2 ogres 1 halfing when i do a "who". Or watching one decked out nexus dark knight or vampire whipe the entire p-base over and over. If thats the case, on the looting. Then the item was bound to the character. EDIT: God, you guys post FAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I think someones been watching me "PK" I have "been" here for 7 years and pk like someone who just found his first vial some times. If I didnt love it here Id prolly be a master chef or something. Believe me, I make mistakes like its in-style. But, I kinda enjoyed the old days of being able to make a mistake or two and still come out on top. I hate it when games become a science. I guess smaller player base forces for higher quality pvp though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 If you're really tired of not being able to fight decked characters, make a ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 lol, i tried that and got eaten at 45, see Serian post. The p-base will not allow me to play a ninja. That one had the "essentials" mastered and some of the "nice" skills very close to it, I'm sure this had nothing to do with me and more to do with ninjas as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 lol' date=' i tried that and got eaten at 45, see Serian post. The p-base will not allow me to play a ninja.[/quote'] No, you do not know HOW to play a ninja. There is a difference. Take the time to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Ninja's are hardly a science, hide, study, strangle, assassinate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calron Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 That statement just shows you don't know how to play a ninja... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 That statement just shows you don't know how to play a ninja... meh, guess your right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 That statement just shows you don't know how to play a ninja... Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crucial Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Forget what pali says about ninjas, ninjas and cleric are for __________ Id like to see a great warrior or zerk being played now, so I can see how its done, because apparently I cant do it right. And I love zerks and wars but I need to "take the time to learn" in the meantime while I get pkyed and barely scratch a pk off id like to see A savant yells "help this big zerk or warrior keeps raping me" that would make me smile, and you all know how you like to make me smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Forget what pali says about ninjas' date=' ninjas and cleric are for [u']people I haven't learned how to kill yet That's better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Warriors, Zerks, and Rangers are all I'm good at playing... But i cant find Marak since they moved it, and i need my pills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackwilly21 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Warriors' date=' Zerks, and Rangers are all I'm good at playing... But i cant find Marak since they moved it, and i need my pills.[/quote'] Not to talk smack, but you've been here since 2000, and can't find Marak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Not to talk smack' date=' but you've been here since 2000, and can't find Marak?[/quote'] its moved since i last played, it hasn't always been where it is now. and there wasn't always this shenanigan lava place up north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackwilly21 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Actually, it has always been where it is...it hasn't moved as long as I can remember. They DID however remove a shortcut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crucial Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 There are several ways to get there aswell, and I usally take the scenic route. I had to find it for the same reason jester, pills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackwilly21 Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 I know of 3 ways, 4 ways if you're level 5 or below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 guess i relied on that shortcut being there, meh. I'll find it again, and make a melee again, since its what I'm good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Voodoo Doll Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Dude, explore more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester Posted July 17, 2007 Report Share Posted July 17, 2007 Dude' date=' explore more[/quote'] Every time you post something like this, God kills a kitten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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