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Ranger's arrows should be used by all

I think all the classes that use bows should be able to use rangers arrows, if you rp to get them made for you its reasonable.. i dont see why a warrior wouldnt be able to use poison tipped or fire tipped arrows anyway... makes no sense it should be how it used to be

i dont see why a warrior wouldnt be able to use poison tipped or fire tipped arrows anyway

I don't see why a warrior won't be able to us a malform too, if you RP to get it made for you, right?

Before you face a barrage of words by nay-sayers, know that what you are asking for had been the case for said arrows. It was changed when, inevitably, a group of individuals were unhappy with it for one reason or another. That is similar to druid potions being usable by the druid only.

In my opinion, there are a minority of players that are going to complain until there are only 4 classes (Mage, Warrior, Thief, Cleric) and they personally are the stongest one.

I think that being able to craft items that you can sell, or exchange, is a giant step towards promoting social interactions. Perhaps the user that is not the craftsman should bear some sort of penalty. It may also be possible for them to observe less of an effect, but I cannot promote such crafting more. It just seems like it does more benefit than harm in regards to creating an interactive world that is not hack-and-slash.

From my experience, there are a goodly number of people that only open their mouths to complain about something they think is too strong. You do not hear many folks saying, "Wow, I sure do think offhand-disarm is working well." That is because if something works well, then most folks will not comment on it. If a minority thinks off-hand disarm is making their life more difficult, then that group will be deafening in their opinions. After all, most complaints are usually written in Prayer Forum or in-game notes. This seems to be so they cannot be argued. In time, the same complaints from that minority will be too much to ignore.

The removal of that feature is certainly a shame. That is just my opinion.

EDIT : Alas, I am too late. ::Peers at Foxx intently.::

It is not a shame.

It makes archers quite unique. As you could make a tracking ranger and just ask a archer ranger to make your arrows.

It is also cuts the problem of warriors with endless supplies of special arrows.

People would carry backpacks full of them. As it's quite easy for a ranger to make them. If it was balanced with slabs of starstones then perhaps it would be diferent. Having a Warrior who can fire Blind arrows, or sleep arrows is a pain.

It also affected the way people used to use sleep arrows to pass difficult areas in Winter/Desolation.

Mya disagrees with me. There is no question I am right, now.

<3 you Mya. Don't cut me in my sleep.

it was the way it should be, just because something is hard doesnt mean you should take it out, why wouldnt a warrior or a ninja be able to use special arrows you tell me? and its not like they would have an endless supply it takes time and effort to make such and the ranger is still unique in fact he can make the arrows and has the power to give to whom he or she chooses... a few people got mad that warriors were putting them to sleep well poison yourself then.. it was more balanced like that.

it was the way it should be' date=' just because something is hard doesnt mean you should take it out, why wouldnt a warrior or a ninja be able to use special arrows you tell me? and its not like they would have an endless supply it takes time and effort to make such and the ranger is still unique in fact he can make the arrows and has the power to give to whom he or she chooses... a few people got mad that warriors were putting them to sleep well poison yourself then.. it was more balanced like that.[/quote']

The problem lies more in OOC connections. Have a friend that you log in with from a half block down the road and have him feed you sleep arrows. You'll never run out. May as well be an archer warrior.

AND imagine a warrior with druid potions, dual malformed weapons, and sleepy arrows. Scared? Should be.

Now, we could make it so anyone can buy/find this stuff, but then comes the complaining "I can't find it, it's not fair!" Also, IMHO, these things make these classes unique. There are other arrows out there. However, not everything should be available to everyone. Else we'd all be picking our own skills/spells as we level or at creation.

EDIT: One day I'll learn to keep my mouth shut and not step into things I don't even really care that much about.

You know, I don't like that BLMs lost certain bonuses in WM, but after all those bonuses were too powerful to begin with, just like a warrior who is firing vuln/poison/plague arrows is too powerful.

Which ofcourse rises other quetions like should melee classes have access to that nice effect a certain spell in nexus offers, or should another spell in savant affect things like blackjack and shadowform...

To powerful I tell you. To powerful!!!

It was changed because tracker rangers using custom arrows was unbalancing. Warriors firing vuln arrows was unbalancing. Ninjas using fireblind arrows and sleep arrows was unbalancing.

The arrows were everywhere, every single class that could fire a bow had plague arrows and poison and fire and sleepy.

You come up with all kinds of "I can sell them" or "I can Rp handing them out" ideas then someone just pkills you and takes your bag.

well a warrior that cannot use these arrows makes his bow basically useless... same with a ninja..

well a warrior that cannot use these arrows makes his bow basically useless... same with a ninja..

Now that is just a silly claim.

what good is a gun that only shoots blanks? you tell me... A gun should be able to fire any kind of ammunition like armor piercing or ball or tracers

I've always thought ranger arrows/druid potions should be rot death and allowed for use by all...JMO...of course trying to say if that is so, then the same should be done for malform...that's just ludicrous...malform is uniquely and vastly different than what a fletcher/potion maker does

what good is a gun that only shoots blanks? you tell me...

I will tell you, but first you tell me what you mean with "shoots blanks"?

blanks meaning bullets/arrows that dont do anything..

blanks meaning bullets/arrows that dont do anything..

You seem to be having a problem with missle shield, rather than arrows...

no its just normal arrows are useless

no its just normal arrows are useless

No, they are not.

no its just normal arrows are useless

if you explore a little you can find all kinds of effect arrows, holy arrows, ice arrows, arrows that wound, arrows that ignore some armor, arrows that poison, barbed arrows...

all in game..