Wathok Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 From what I've seen' date=' I would add to your list of ownage on healers: Druids.[/quote'] Not after Virigoth modified the druid class. One ability in particular was toned down so that this is no longer true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balgashang Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Assuming equal preparation, equipment, and player skill... Classes that own healers: shamans, necros, vamps, maybe thieves Classes that can't touch healers: melee classes You can't kill what you can't keep in battle. Not true for all melee classes, I fought a healer in a duel with my warrior, healer had all the necessary spells up, flight, sanc, prot shield, div retribution, he took me to sixty, maybe seventy percent before I dropped him. This is my first warrior I'm playing currently that I've ever pinnacled, but so far it seems warriors can easily own any mage or communer class, and I think invokers would be the hardest to beat out of them. And rogues haven't been too much of trouble so far, although I haven't fought a really good thief in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Zerks can own healers if they get a lucky haymaker in before they're calmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorCleric Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Not true for all melee classes' date=' I fought a healer in a [b']duel with my warrior, healer had all the necessary spells up, flight, sanc, prot shield, div retribution, he took me to sixty, maybe seventy percent before I dropped him. Duel being the key word, if it were pk, he would have just left the fight. WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Zerks usually can get the drop on a Healer. I know that Sneaks nearly killed mine by charging him near the Cloud Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelsyome Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Getting back on track now, AC affects damage absorption, defense (dodge... etc), and "misses". With certain mage classes, you'll find that you won't really have trouble wracking up the AC... even if you're going for HP armor. If you're one of the casting classes (invoker, bmage, etc...) there is a good chance that you've chosen a race with a relatively lower con stat. If this is the case, focus on HP and let the ac pile up naturally. If you're asking generally, you can only expect a general answer: A good mix of HP and AC does a body good. However, if you have a specific class in mind, there are definitely more specific answers. You can ask about specific classes (as long as they're not qclasses), or read the class essays. Some of them describe exactly what kind of armor you should go after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrek Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Duel being the key word, if it were pk, he would have just left the fight. WC We have a winner! I'm so glad I'm not talking to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorCleric Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 I like soup. WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-Brake-4-Minotaurs Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 If anyone remembers Chueh's psi from 1.0 you would know EXACTALLY what I'm talking about when I say how crazy a mage with absurdly high AC is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-D&Der Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 I think Sirant said the benefit tapers off after -400 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted February 11, 2006 Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 If anyone remembers Chueh's psi from 1.0 you would know EXACTALLY what I'm talking about when I say how crazy a mage with absurdly high AC is. Combine that with the psi replacement (and upgrade) for sanc... yeah, they can take a pounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarduarkar Posted February 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2006 Ac question solved. I parry like a wimp with no AC. Average ac is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goomf Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 Just don't have high ac against a ranger or an invoker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Way Up Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I forgot the exact amount, but I remember Behrens having an insanley high AC with Corim. Seemed to do him rather well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I think he said it -700 or something sick like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behrens Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I think he said it -700 or something sick like that. I actually think it broke -1000 with Corim. Caoliac only had -700 to -800 on account of lower DEX. And yes, a melee class with that kind of AC is truly sickening. (I honestly don't remember the numbers, and all my logs got lost when I reformatted) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackwilly21 Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 I remember how much of a beast Tylith was...*shiver* good thing we were allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiser Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 Heh. I remember on Morticant, at first, before he figured out what he was doing, he was my malform fodder. Then, slowly, as he started to (I also gave a hand by not full-saccing his stuff/holy weapons out of pity, something which I later kicked myself for), it got harder and harder. By the end of Morticant's life, Corim was hands-down slapping the hell out of me. Stupid 1k AC crusaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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