I think Syndicate should take it personally when some chump places a bounty of 10 velvet cloaks or 10 elemental bracelets on the head of some cabal leader then stands there demanding you take the bounty, just because it's there.
I think people who place lame bounties should be whacked before the person they bountied, just so they know it's not cool.
In all other aspects, I agree with Celerity.
Double Post.
Oh my.
Problem number 1. A bounty has a minimum cost, yet I can offer a rare worth less than a fifteeth of this in value and it is accepted. Therefor it is far cheaper to place a eq-bounty than one for coins.
Problem 2. The equipment used for bounties is Lost from circulation. This has been discussed, abused, and I care not to visit the subject long. While I do not claim to know the answer to this, I have often thought an easy fix might be to;
change it so that the local syndicate office actually gives you fare market value for your rare equipment. This means it may require a small list of rare items to reach the minimum sum necessary for a contract. Truthfully if your asking me to kill someone for equipment I have to ask myself how hard is it to go get that particular item vs how long will it take me to prepare, chase, and bounty one of you. I actually got this Idea from a certain famous Syndicate in game. So Kudos Rat King, all those hours of having to chase a healer for minimal payment could one day be history.
The first problem you stated is not a problem. It is easy to get gold. Sell iron breast plates (7k gold) and sell mithril or chasm or chimera (2-6k per piece) and keep selling til they have no gold. Then next reboots do it all over again. Its easy. Plus there a mobs out there with a bunch of gold. Shop keepers are easy to kill. You see someone buy a orb of dragonkin? Go kill the shop keeper.
The first problem you stated is not a problem. It is easy to get gold. Sell iron breast plates (7k gold) and sell mithril or chasm or chimera (2-6k per piece) and keep selling til they have no gold. Then next reboots do it all over again. Its easy. Plus there a mobs out there with a bunch of gold. Shop keepers are easy to kill. You see someone buy a orb of dragonkin? Go kill the shop keeper. I know that as Croyvern I played the role of a merchant, but not all of my characters follow that path. We all eventually find ourselves with too many rares anyway, and you can not sell them. Seems if the Syndicate started buying rares with the purpose being to return them to circulation, everybody wins. Character gains coins, that he can use toward a bounty or take to his bank. Benefeit of using it toward a bounty being no syndicate tax witheld. Syndicate gains a few extra coins from sellers who would never spend gold in their shops. Players gain a percentage of the "lost" rares that would otherwise sit and gather dust on a shelf. JMO
BTW gold is easily attainable, it is left on the ground and can be located. How many times have you walked away and left a perfectly contractable rare sitting on the ground? If you had to farm gold, or go pick up that * you sense on the ground, which would you do?
I think the bounty system should be changed for many reasons.
#1. Too many people, and a lot of low lvl people, bounty random people who they have had no interaction with just to get armor with someone else doing the work.
#2. I know of instances of people playing uber rares on people that never get on, and when the bounty is up the equipment just comes back to the person who placed it, which leaves many rares out of circulation for the duration of the bounty.
My few ideas would be:
#1. Make it so you have to enter a reason for your bounty and it has to be approved by an immortal for it to actually become a bounty... something kinda like dcheck but for bounties.
or
#2. Take object lvl and equipment completely off the bounty board.
Your thoughts.
What I find funny is that when I played my Syndicate... I found there were a LACK of bounties.
Re: Croy
Disagree, if you have something, you sell it. As long as you follow the right level restrictions.
However I will admit a large portion of my income went towards bounties only because I could make more return on the goods received that way.
All of the following happened in about 1 - 1 1/2 months.
ITEM AMOUNT PLAYER
1x Planar Blade for 50,000 gold coins. Kinaniya
1x Icy Blue Dagger 25,000 gold coins. Wyomi
1x Marked Bracer for 10,000 Gold Coins. ??
1x Translucent cloak 50,000 gold coins. Gaerak
1x Major Globe 35,000 and a thick Hide. Gaerak
1x Ring of Fire 20,000 gold coins.** Zhovaek
1x Ring of Fire 30,000 gold coins. Dumini
1x Ebony Kris 20,000 gold coins. Dungor
1x Robe of Tuo 40,000 gold coins. Yerti
1x flesh works 60,000 gold coins. Kelpaia
1x Icy Blue Dagger 30,000 gold coins. Hijtir
1x Emerald Sword 20,000 gold coins. Hessenth
1x decorated arm bands 15,000 gold coins. Hessenth
1x multi-magic plated 23,000 + bears tooth. Lentrik
1x set of under 10 eq 10,000 gold coins. Vheriak
1x Surgeons knife 15,000 gold coins. Xesthelisia
1x Full Red Dra eq 8,000 gold coins. Ahyvdor
1x full tainted eq 13,000 gold coins. Borz
1x Full Red Dra eq 20,000 gold coins. Nahalla
1x Bone Bow of Anduin 50,000 gold coins. Brakkus
1x Full Red Dra eq 10,000 gold coins. Pmai
1x Sharp Glaive 15,000 gold coins. Telmar
1x plagueward ring 10,000 gold coins. Kelpaia
10x Vials 25,000 gold coins. Guarnahm
1x shark skinned sleeves 15,000 gold coins. Guarnahm
1x fire lance 40,000 gold coins. Yerti
1x gown of white samite 45,000 gold coins. Thonabence
1x whispering battleaxe 6,000 gold coins. Belgar
1x bracers of defense 10,000 gold coins. Truren
2x tainted ankh 10,000 gold coins. Nhaudamiel
2x copper bracelets 30,000 gold coins. Truren
2x blue lapis 10,000 gold coins. Truren
1x boots of protection 40,000 gold coins. Legari
1x spider climbing slip 40,000 gold coins. Truren
1x rnd B.G. W heartgear 50,000 gold coins. Savitol -- runed black guntlets w. heartgear
1x shark skinned sleeve 35,000 gold coins. Savitol
1x burning sheath 30,000 gold coins. Legari
1x Double plated helm 8,000 gold coins. cjak
2x copper bracelets 30,000 gold coins. Draysar
2x bears tooth 10,000 gold coins. Draysar
2x brooch of life 20,000 gold coins. Keanon
1x rnd B.G. w sapphire 10,000 gold coins. Keanon
1x crabshell leggings 20,000 gold coins. Keanon
1x spider slippers 18,000 gold coins. Keanon
1x cursed bone earrings 15,000 gold coins. Sinerath
1x robe of tuo 40,000 gold coins. Sinerath
6x slabs of starstone 45,000 gold coins. Elviena
1x slimy breastplate 15,000 gold coins. Hessenth
1x tit fullplate 50,000 gold coins. Haroen
1x circlet of arcan 50,000 gold coins. Haroen
1x boots of protection 35,000 gold coins. Haroen
1x titanium fullplate 100,000 gold coins. Tizzertop
1x ring of fire 35,000 gold coins. Xzion
1x emerald earrings 35,000 gold coins. Legari
1x white gown of samite 40,000 gold coins. Truren
1x magic multi-plated g 40,000 gold coins. Truren
1x golden mask 20,000 gold coins. Truren
1x powerspring 50,000 gold coins. Kinaniya
1x Eog armor 40,000 gold coins. Truren
1x shark skinned sleeves 30,000 gold coins. Truren
2x tit bracer 14,000 gold coins. Ewanatiia
1x sharp glaive 12,000 gold coins. Lenghar
1x tempest trident 50,000 gold coins. Kinaniya
1x power spring 50,000 gold coins. Ashlend
1x tiamat's skin 35,000 gold coins. Ashlend
5x vial 15,000 gold coins. Yerti
1x dead star circlet 30,000 gold coins. Gaerak
1x tiamat's Skin 30,000 gold coins. Rhrgrar
1x rat dagger 35,000 gold coins. Heschin
1x shark skinned sleeves 30,000 gold coins. Draysar
1x mhan-tor's rage 30,000 gold coins. Draysar
1x ice armor 100,000 gold coins. Dumini
1x decorated arm bands 20,000 gold coins. Dumini
1x crown of might 35,000 gold coins. Kronit
1x void leggings 80,000 gold coins. Kronit
1x cape of dragonhide 35,000 gold coins. Kronit
1x shark skinned sleeves 30,000 gold coins. Kronit
1x Banner of Illisandar 70,000 gold coins. Kronit
1x Boots of protection 10,000 gold coins. Tessa
1x Shark Skinned Sleeves 40,000 gold coins. Valforain
1x Multi magic plated 35,000 gold coins. Valforain
1x Moonstone pendant 40,000 gold coins. Kronit
1x poison barbed gauntelt 50,000 gold coins. Dregareth
1x magic multiplated gird 25,000 gold coins. Dregareth
1x shield of shadows 20,000 gold coins. Dregareth
1x eog armor 25,000 gold coins. Dregareth
1x garb of an assassin 50,000 gold coins. Gaerak
1x Broken Terminator 150,000 gold coins. Morgwean
1x Titanium fullplate 80,000 gold coins. Morgwean
1x Solar Grasp of the wi 150,000 gold coins. Morgwean
1x gem encrusted spear 25,000 gold coins. vahrain
1x legs of adeptus 150,000 gold coins. Amaedus
1x glowing emeber 40,000 gold coins. Vahrein
1x tiamat's skin 30,000 gold coins. Morgwean
1x banner of illisandar 45,000 gold coins. Branor
1x banner of illisandar 50,000 gold coins. Ravalorn
1x tainted set of eq 10,000 gold coins. Throlt
1x sheath of acid 40,000 gold coins. Rharhgr
1x spider slippers 40,000 gold coins. Rharhgr
1x tentacle leg plates 40,000 gold coins. Rharhgr
1x onyx lance 45,000 gold coins. Kohavai
1x pearl earrings 10,000 gold coins. Kohavai
1x Brightly coloured Parr 40,000 gold coins. Savitol
1x titanium fullplate 60,000 gold coins. Kalidari
1x minor globe 28,000 gold coins. Kalidari
1x black heart 10,000 gold coins. Kalidari
1x gown of white samite 40,000 gold coins. Zorothium
1x boots of protection 30,000 gold coins. Zorothium
1x decorated armbands 15,000 gold coins. Zorothium
1x crystal earring 5,000 gold coins. Zorothium
1x double plated leggings 15,000 gold coins. Zorothium
1x crustacean ring 10,000 gold coins. Zorothium
1x Services Rendered 20,000 gold coins. Zhamordel
1x banner of illisandar 45,000 gold coins. Taeim
1x titanium fullplate 50,000 gold coins. Namastai
1x titanium fullplate 80,000 gold coins. Garghort
1x titanium fullplate 80,000 gold coins. Amaedus
1x armlets of Vladimere 30,000 gold coins. Kohavai
1x titanium fullplate 70,000 gold coins. Kohavai
1x golden mask 35,000 gold coins. Khumhar
1x robe of tuo 30,000 gold coins. Raglis
1x titanium fullplate 70,000 gold coins. Zothorius
1x Hessians 60,000 gold coins. Ellette
1x bracelet of magic 30,000 gold coins. Ellette
1x helm of spell turning 220,000 gold coins. Sinerath
1x bracelet of magic 45,000 gold coins. Sinerath
1x belt of segmented sca 50,000 gold coins. Taeim
1x eel skinned cloak 50,000 gold coins. Taeim
1x gem encrusted w ember 40,000 gold coins. Taeim
1x planar w crystal spike 40,000 gold coins. Taeim
1x glowing emeber 10,000 gold coins. Taeim
1x gown of samite 30,000 gold coins. Taeim
1x crown of might 50,000 gold coins. Gaerak
1x shark skinned sleeves 35,000 gold coins. Gaerak
1x ring of accuracy 54,000 gold coins. Daekor
1x burning sheath 30,000 gold coins. Amaedus
1x banner of illisandar 45,000 gold coins. Amaedus
1x monorod 200,000 gold coins. Tenrinal
Since Elder
1x solar grasp 150,000 gold coins. Tial
1x Hessians 80,000 gold coins. Ellette
1x Vorpal sword of atone 200,000 gold coins. Evashen
1x light steel leggings 30,000 gold coins. Evashen
1x Helm of spell turning 400,000 gold coins. Morgwean
2x Ring of accuracy 120,000 gold coins. Morgwean
1x helm of spell turning 200,000 gold coins. Rhazarhar
1x Hessians 100,000 gold coins. Rhazarhar
1x belt of segmented sca 100,000 gold coins. Rhazarhar
1x Banner of illisandar 100,000 gold coins. Rhazarhar
1x Banner of illisandar 40,000 gold coins. Rhazarhar
1X Muramasa Katana 50,000 gold coins. Tial
1x leggings of adeptus 150,000 gold coins. Kalidari
1x broken terminator 300,000 gold coins. Renshen
1x tiamats skin 25,000 gold coins. Throlt
1x Titanium fullplate 80,000 gold coins. Kaedren
1x titanium fullplate 50,000 gold coins. Rhazhakhar
1x Dark Energy Hessians 60,000 gold coins. Rhazhakhar
1x Helm of Spell Turning 315,000 gold coins. Sahlin (sp)
1x poison barbed gauntlet 50,000 gold coins. Rhazhakhar
1x boots of protection 30,000 gold coins. Ahyvdor
1x major globe 40,000 gold coins. Kiku
1x titanium fullplate 50,000 gold coins. Tizzertop
1x Emblem of Gear 30,000 gold coins. Inmek
1x Dragonscale ring 50,000 gold coins. Inmek
1x Nimbus of Power 500,000 gold coins. Sinerath
1x Ethereal Radience 75,000 gold coins. Pugnicant
3,335,000 gold coins.
TOTAL 8,464,000 gold coins. 50+ different customers.
The list that follows was made during my career, I stopped making it a short while after getting E in the clan and becoming Korthians Right Hand Man, I no longer had to report my transactions to him. The total near the end of my characters life would of been very close to twenty five million gold. Spent on buying people, equipment and so forth through out my characters life.Oh and Bounties, god did I spend a lot on bounties.
There are some changes coming on for bounties along with the syndicate changes (new subcabal, etc.) that will make it more fun for everyone. Many of the suggestions here have already been discussed and we have some ideas what to change.
After the Knight changes we are almost done with the next cabal, which is not Syndicate yet. Everyone will get their turn though.
Cmon boss reveal more 
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Nexians prepare, here comes the nerf bat
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lol it was gonna happen sooner or later.
Nexians prepare' date=' here comes the nerf bat
If Nexians are so bad, why'd they change Knight first? Just changes, not nerfs
Well, I don't wanna discuss knight skills, but the changes do change the level of power, especially for the Elders.
Knight T, esp. Praetorian got upgraded quite the bit. Sigil E got a more passive skill, Praet E skill is very strong and fun, just been nobody there to show you yet. Knight L skill is now on a level to compare with other cabal's L skills.
the knight T change is nice.
IF someone is in a cabal and you change skills, will the members who have gained the current unchanged skills be refunded pracs? or cp? to compensate for what they spent? Or will current proficiencies be translated over to the new skills?
I tend to spend thousands of cp on things like that
watcher could perhaps use some love i think. syndicate L seems a bit op i'd be shocked if knigts L abilities are that strong.
back on topic i think bounty requirement should be higher based on the person you are bountying. to get someone to kill an initiate maybe 50k gold to kill a leader somewhere around 300k gold.
i wish someone had a solid idea how we could still use items but not remove them from circulation...
There is no solid way. My main complaint about EQ bounties comes from people doing 2 things with uber rare eq.
Putting it on shelved chars to keep it out of circulation.
and
Putting it on shelved chars so that it returns to them after bounty is over, as a way to ensure they get eq even if full looted. It costs nothing to place a bounty, so continually placing eq on heads that cannot be collected will ensure your in complete control of potentially entire sets of gear.
There is no solid way. My main complaint about EQ bounties comes from people doing 2 things with uber rare eq.
Putting it on shelved chars to keep it out of circulation.
and
Putting it on shelved chars so that it returns to them after bounty is over, as a way to ensure they get eq even if full looted. It costs nothing to place a bounty, so continually placing eq on heads that cannot be collected will ensure your in complete control of potentially entire sets of gear.
wow that's totally jacked up... i hate exploits like this. what if... the character hasn't logged on since the bounty was set the items are disolved on the shelf from rust and dont return to the player?
wow that's totally jacked up... i hate exploits like this. what if... the character hasn't logged on since the bounty was set the items are disolved on the shelf from rust and dont return to the player?
Then you still have people bountying uber rares on shelved chars. So you wait a week for the bounty to go away, then who knows how long til a trip/worldshift to go get the new ones. So you have a char who is able to remove items from anyones grasp for 25% of the monthly play time. Meaning one out of every four times you want to check something, you won't have access to it.
Now factor in alot of the stronger players can solo through the harder parts of the game with relative ease, you have a scenario where someone can easily keep stuff out of circulation for a long time. I know myself I can solo the factions, most of deso, and a fair portion of dischord. I know if i can do it with the combos I am playing, others can do it faster with better combos. I just want to see equipment bounties removed all together.
yea that makes the most sense i think.
they should make it so , for a price, you can determine who set your bounty.