English lad Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I was thinking the other day that getting more new players hooked should be a lot easier when there is something global and visible going on..The game can seem very empty as a newly created character, as the Lands are VERY big for the amount of players we have atm, and a lot of people at Pinn don't really want to just be stumbled across, so they hang out in out of the way areas until they're ready to go do something. A global event tends to have global echoes, maybe special mobs, and it also tends to have more visible Immortal interaction, and visible High level Morts in the more common areas. Things like this are a great hook for new players. I remember when I first started the first time around having missed the changeover from 2.0 to 3.0 by a few months, and people were still talking about the whole Sirant plot, and the Sirant versus Virigoth fight. I was digging around on TMS after voting the other day, and came across this post. http://www.topmudsites.com/forums/advertising-players/4530-otherspace-end-near.html I was enthralled, it sounds so fun and engaging - and then i realised we have similar things going on here at the moment. Events like this are a great advertising hook. Hell we could do it as a player competition if the Imms are to busy, with the Imms deciding who wrote the best description of upcoming events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Uh... didn't we JUST have a guy overthrow the Savants and an Immortal and gain insane power for a time? That doesn't count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I am confused as to what you are saying/asking. Are you asking that we have a new rp plot called the Second bloodletting? Or are you saying that their should be more characters at pinned involved with each other in a global rp plot? P.S. The true rp plots (Dreadlord vs. Theranwind, Orealt vs. Miscreant) were much better than the link you gave us. By far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English lad Posted October 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Exactly what I'm talking about - I'm not saying we don't have these things, because we do, we have them all the time..We just don't make it apparent to people that they're happening - Advertising like in the link is a really powerful way of pulling people in, and also will be more likely to promote RP, than pure powergamers who RP to justify their PK. EDIT In responce to Questionner - We are having a second bloodletting (potentially) its already in game, but it shows what I'm talking about that you didn't know about it let alone that new players considering the game don't know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 How can you derive the fact that I do not know there is a plot in motion? Do you assume that I do not read the notes in-game? How do you know that I am not one of the people responsible for this rp plot? Unless of course, you yourself are one of these characters. What do you consider is a new player? I am still fairly new to this mud, muds in general. Tezdal and Suunmar are great examples of new players to Fl who excelled past most in rp and pk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English lad Posted October 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 TBH i assumed you would know, it was your post asking if I was calling for their to be a new plot that threw me - People seem to be getting the wrong end of the stick - I'm not saying we don't have activity, or that this other MUD has better activity - I'm saying we should talk more about the activity we have. Celebrate it a little. The link was just as an example of what we could do - Only ours would be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Recent plots/mini-plots: Khalandar The discovery of Sirant's devout: Anume Moquir's World Wide Carnival Khranin, the Noble of Rheydin Tezdal, ascendant to immortality and beyond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calron Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Actually, I'd say Tezdal is an example of a character who didn't do very well in PK, but was able to accomplish a lot through RP. This is a prime example of the fact that you don't have to be an expert PKer to get things done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Actually, now that I understand what you're aiming for (simply advertising what the recent RP plots have been as a way to entice potential players), I think it's a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montahg Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Actually' date=' I'd say Tezdal is an example of a character who didn't do very well in PK, but was able to accomplish a lot through RP. This is a prime example of the fact that you don't have to be an expert PKer to get things done.[/quote'] Are you kidding? I dominated everyone on the mud! Actually, I was worse than terrible at pk for the first half of my life, until Anume kicked me in the balls. Then once I stopped being afraid of pk, I'd say I did alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I think we need a RP journal thing. Something that can summarize in a neutral view the events that happen in the lands, without the length/self promotion of the note system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wayward Knight Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 I think we need a RP journal thing. Something that can summarize in a neutral view the events that happen in the lands, without the length/self promotion of the note system. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Actually, I don't see that as a negative... the note system's in character, and people aren't going to say bad things about themselves in public like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The End Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I think we need a RP journal thing. Something that can summarize in a neutral view the events that happen in the lands, without the length/self promotion of the note system. I am just going to use this quote to start. We have a journal log, it's called the RP Logs section of the forums. If it is used more, it will give more information as to what is going on. We HAD the shout-outs to give little hints and tidbits of the plots, but that was taken away because of blatant abuse by enough of us to deem it necessary. Secondly, Questioner, calm down man. This was a good idea to publicly (outside the FL community) announce major RP plots to entise new players who are hard core RP on other muds and looking for something new. Take a smoke break and try not to jump his bones too hard okay? The only problem with public announcements about RP plots is that it is nearly impossible for a newbie who is pre-pinn to take an active roll in the plot. That can be frustrating so I don't see them attending to those plots as a great recruiting. HOWEVER, I think it would show those players that we have enormous opportunities to advance RP while using PK, but not PK oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelEdict Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I like that. It would be great on the website...of course, that needs some updates. In fact, a running Blog of current global events wouldn't be bad. I want to say that we do not see nearly so many global plots, although there are many big plots. The plot with the Conclave, Shades, Nameless, and Rasep Ratep, etc, and all that went on in that period is what I think of when I think global events. We need more like that...something BIG that effects everyone no matter what because it draws you in in all areas of the MUD. I think we need a RP journal thing. Something that can summarize in a neutral view the events that happen in the lands, without the length/self promotion of the note system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelEdict Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I think the Pinns should make a greater effort to draw in pre-pinns. Just because you are not 50 doesn't mean you don't live in the realm or have impact on it. That has been a long-running problem, where the 50-range practically ignores anyone not in their group range. The only problem with public announcements about RP plots is that it is nearly impossible for a newbie who is pre-pinn to take an active roll in the plot. That can be frustrating so I don't see them attending to those plots as a great recruiting. HOWEVER' date=' I think it would show those players that we have enormous opportunities to advance RP while using PK, but not PK oriented.[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Thanks The End. What you wrote was exactly what I had in mind. This is a good idea, but only so far as showing new players that there is an intensive rp aspect to Fl. Sorry for pouncing like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbishop Monk Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I like that. It would be great on the website...of course' date=' that needs some updates. In fact, a running Blog of current global events wouldn't be bad. I want to say that we do not see nearly so many global plots, although there are many big plots. The plot with the Conclave, Shades, Nameless, and [b']Rasep Ratep, etc, and all that went on in that period is what I think of when I think global events. We need more like that...something BIG that effects everyone no matter what because it draws you in in all areas of the MUD. Thought it was Rasep D'artep. Could be wrong though cause I got one rounded by him so much back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 D'hartep, actually, when he was roaming Val Miran putting everyone in limbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinicky Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I like that. It would be great on the website...of course' date=' that needs some updates. In fact, a running Blog of current global events wouldn't be bad.[/quote'] I have to second this. I think the website is actually a huge turnoff for new players. They see the MUD on something like TMS and clikc the link, which brings them to our site. They look at our site and say, "Hmmm. According to this, nothing has happened on this MUD since 2005." Then maybe they click the link to connect... and nothing happens (at least it doesn't connect via the link on my comp - but that may be my comp rather than the site.) After perusing the website for a little bit, they are largely convinced that nothing is happening in the MUD anymore, and walk away disappointed and with an eerily annoying song stuck in their head (no offense intended). It is highly unlikely that this person would even come give us enough of a try to figure out that the website is an inaccurate and outdated description of who and what we really are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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