Hegemon Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 One of my biggest pet peeves in this game is/was one player mercies another, then gives his or her little speech about how they are going to give the helpless enemy another chance, before finishing them off. Much in the same way as you can't die to someone knowing you'll come back, other people can't really do this either. Yes, I suppose IC you are thinking that people seem to come back left, right, and center. But in the strictest sense, it's poor RP. Same goes for "You should change your ways" (swings axe). Or any variation thereof. It's not the deaths (few as they were) that bothered me, but the bizzare logic involved. How can you change your ways if you are dead? Anyway, that always bothered me, and I just now got around to ranting about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobcatFan Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 This makes a lot of sense. Im surprised you are the first to bring this up. I completely agree with what you are saying. Mercy should be used for "change your ways" before walking off and giving the person another chance. Very nice comment on rp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 One of my biggest pet peeves in this game is was one player mercies another, then gives his or her little speech about how they are going to give the helpless enemy another chance, before finishing them off. Much in the same way as you can't die to someone knowing you'll come back, other people can't really do this either. Yes, I suppose IC you are thinking that people seem to come back left, right, and center. But in the strictest sense, it's poor RP. Same goes for "You should change your ways" (swings axe). Or any variation thereof. It's not the deaths (few as they were) that bothered me, but the bizzare logic involved. How can you change your ways if you are dead? Anyway, that always bothered me, and I just now got around to ranting about it. Fully, 100% concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 As do I. I remember that Elf Pally Avatar back when Sirican was starting in Nexus, he would mercy me and give a little speech about basicly how he was bada$$ and his God has chosen me to be unworthy of life. That is the proper use of this type of thing. If you are going to give someone "mercy" then by killing them you are definitely not giving any form of mercy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Dyendas, AKA Festy. I also concur. But that could just be because if you've beaten and mercied me, I'm just going to get pissed if you rub it in my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I have more fun using mercy as a way to compel obedience... I beat them down, proving my superiority, then tell them that if they stand before agreeing to serve me, they will die. And then I just sit there with "murder XXX" ready once mercy wears off. It's fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegemon Posted October 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Re: Balinor I don't mind people mercing and then having their little victory speech. They've earned it, and as much as it boils the blood when it happens to you, it's still good RP and can be a good experience for all involved even if they do kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I always have mercy ON on all the character i can. It helps you not to kill someone you did not wish to. Most often I can only detect if a character is a newbie when he is in a very bad shape, and by then the "Tunnel vision" thing does not allows me to abort. That way i can check if he deserves the death. Newbies i smack and speak and leave them alone. Trash i do mind games while they stress if i am going to kill and full loot or not. I personally think the stress in this situation for the mercied player is huge, and that is the reason i do it. I also think there should be a command to suicide when mercied. Because i also hate it when some trash evil does this to me. And some have. Of course for example i loved the Orc blademaster RP when he mercied me, and then proceded to eat my feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Was that Vhorkus? That really is cool, I had no idea he did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The End Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 I currently have a char that does this to all of his victims, I see nothing wrong with it at all. As a matter of fact, you used part of my wording twice so I am pretty sure you are talking about my char. It goes something like this. I give you this chance, *character*, one chance. You will feel the will of my Lord Irumeru, and you will see. Your aura is black and must be purified, a chance. I will put a part of myself in to you, thus fringing your aura with a white light. Embrace it, allow it to grow and welcome my Lord Irumeru. Die well. Now, that does NOT mean I know they are coming back to life, it doesn't mean that I am expecting them to rise from the grave and return to life. Now if you go overboard and say that when you return or something like that, bad form. Don't kill the messenger because they are taking advantage of the ability to stop a death blow, not give mercy. The end result is still theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 What you said isn't too bad. That's not what we are talking about. Though if someone is dying and hears it, they might not realize what you mean right away. We are talking about people that say, "I'm going to kill you now, but when you come back you better apply for an alignment change or I am going to kill you again." OR "I am going to kill you, but don't worry, I will leave all your items in your corpse so you can fight me again soon." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-D&Der Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Does it really bother you because it's poor roleplay, or because it's just plain annoying? I hate all forms of trash talk and never do it myself. You just killed the person, that should send a message by itself. But the only thing you can do to avoid it is to avoid dying, or get revenge to the point where the person doesn't want to piss you off any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieman Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 There truly is a first time for everything, up till now I've never agreed with anything Mya has said. BUT!!!! A suicide command when brought to your knees is AWESOME. Not just mercied, but mercied, lost challenge, maybe even one that drains you but you can commit suicide in jail? It's just a cool thought, especially think of like a Gladiator losing a challenge and commiting seppuku. Just wicked sweet idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wayward Knight Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Most of the times I've used mercy with one of my paladins, the time I was given with mercy to talk to them were the only words I said to them that they actually bothered to read. High five for RP with silent killers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calron Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 Or, you assumed they were the only words they read. It really isn't good to start making assumptions about peoples characters, RP, or intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted October 7, 2007 Report Share Posted October 7, 2007 We do have a suicide skill... Blademasters currently get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bl3h Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Just because someone doesn't reply to you when you tell them stuff during a pk doesn't mean that they aren't reading what you are saying, some people are just too occupied with chasing/running to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Just because someone doesn't reply to you when you tell them stuff during a pk doesn't mean that they aren't reading what you are saying' date=' some people are just too occupied with chasing/running to reply.[/quote'] This is true. There have been many times where I've not talked mid-PK because I was far too busy to spend the time typing up the response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Yeah, and aside from that, what do you expect someone to say when replying could mean the difference between them catching you and the person getting away? Hell, I've thought up RP ways to be permanently on quiet mode and still be able to get away with killing people because it would be my RP. Only problem is I cant tolerate quiet mode on because I can't hear anything but says and emotes, I'd rather just have the command to remove tells so I could hear everything else. I hate when someone tries talking to me in the middle of me chasing or PKing someone because it throws me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindflayer Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Its called the "deaf" command Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wayward Knight Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Or' date=' you assumed they were the only words they read. It really isn't good to start making assumptions about peoples characters, RP, or intentions.[/quote'] I rest my case on a handful of specific instances that I can recall from the many I was referencing with my previous statement where the person in question had absolutely no idea what I was talking about when I mentioned something I had said earlier. Assumptions, flying around looking for a pk, call it whatever you want... PK is the name of the game, bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Its called the "deaf" command Well there's one command I've never known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcon Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 Once upon a time when I had someone sitting there waiting to die from my mercy I would usually give a nice little speech. However, I remember when it was done to me a few times and my blood was just boiling hoping the person would talk so much that I would get away. But ofcourse, no, I didn't get away. Now I will just check for bounties, give a little wink, or be like Masokant and pull your hair back and slit your throat lol. I loved that one. I still owe you for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinicky Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 I rest my case on a handful of specific instances that I can recall from the many I was referencing with my previous statement where the person in question had absolutely no idea what I was talking about when I mentioned something I had said earlier. Um... wow. Say that again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBwillie Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 jeez...no kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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