Aulian Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Is it just me or is there alot of whining going on atm. Hear me out before you attack me. 1. Quests: Quests have been secret since the dawn of time. Sure you might run through gear with a vet and learn this and that but there are alot of other things in gear that need to be found out. Multiple answers - all the traps - the cube room ect. Quests are for you to do by yourself. They are not a REQUIRED part of the game. It doesnt matter if you have 1 or if you have 55. As such I believe they should be found out by yourself. All of us older players did it. And it took a long time. I can remember spending more then 15 IRL hours in the sanctuary of contraptions before I worked out how a certain machine works. Everything comes with patience. 2. Looting: Looting has been a constant. To say that the old days were much more ruthless would not be a lie, but it would be irrelevant. Looting is an important part of the game. When the game does rely a bit on equipment it is a good way to weaken an enemy or their cabal. If Triathix and Atsul suddenly got naked I assure you - their power would drop considerably. As for uncaballed people being looted? Well it happens. Its not a friendly place out there. There arent people who want to hold hands and sing around a camp fire. Its a war torn land. Its got underground fighters, bandits, merchants who would rather kill you then sell you something. Its rough, its buff and the effects of failing to survive are REAL. (looting.) 3. Cabal Flags: Its up to the cabal, the immortal, and the player. If you dont want to shout out your affilitation then its your business not to. If it is applicable that you know the information - I guarentee you it will not take long before you figure it out. thinking "oh god why is so and so attacking me when im a Tribunal?" probably = they are in an enemy cabal. If you are not cabaled. Then thats just life. Look at unions. They have members and they dont just stay secluded from society. Look at any charity organisation - they have people out there preaching teaching (and due to FL's harsh environment - we have people killing) for awareness. Nothing creates awareness like someone walking around and popping a few people off the face of the earth. Stand back world - im comming through. 4. General Whining Look people - **** happens. Sometimes alot of **** happens to you. And sometimes you help alot of **** happen to other people. Christ ask the immortals - I bitch like a demon when something happens. But they (hopefully know by now) I bitch alot when I get something 'unjust' (completely my own opinion ) happen to me. What you have to think about is investment return. If you invest alot here. And all you get is grief/unhappiness, then maybe it is time for a break or a scale down. Just give it some thought. <3 Aulian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montahg Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 Very well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbond Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 i would say that of all the recent topics, looting is by far the most exhausted and moot at this point, i.e. we don't need another looting thread probably ever again. everyone here by now knows everyone else's opinion about it so let's play the game now, kk? on a positive note, FL has at least stayed in the top 20 on TMS for multiple months now. and even 2 months ago we stayed in 15th place consistently which is something to note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 alot of people are also a bit newer than alot of us Aulian. I agree whole heartedly though man, this game has been tweaked and altered so heavily it is not even the same game that it once was. I remember the days when narnokles left syndicate just to kill them and all their allies. Pff I was such a newb then he scared the hell out of a fully trained fire giant warrior as an avian DK. You just gotta suck it up through the crap to get to the good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English lad Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 He was played by Despiser though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forsaken Posted October 10, 2007 Report Share Posted October 10, 2007 He was a herald, pshaw. Heralds aren't scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 You must remember, Aulian takes all challenges/ctitiques/criticism about the way things "have always been" as whining Of course, I agree with his points...just not the whining part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBwillie Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 so lets whine about whining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcon Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 I must say, it makes things a lot easier when someone sums up almost everything you want to say. Good job Aulian. On another note I would like to comment on Cabal wars very quickly instead of blasting out a new thread. War = Kill or be killed. Vendetta = you killed my family infront of me... and now I have found you. And yes, for those that dont get much of a thrill out of being outnumbered, then you are defenitely going to hate cabal wars.(unless you join herald) Why? Well, usually at one point you will be outnumbered and fighting multiple opponents. And yes there will be the odd times when you are facing about two or three of them at once. Now, immortals obviously frown on it at times but people still get keyboard happy and it does tend to happen. Especially when they have your standard and your fighting their altar (the one they are sworn to protect) so most likely you will face all of them. Actually.... I am goining to stop right here. I can go on forever about this topic, and write you all a magical essay about how I feel that this is exactly what you signed up for the second you wanted to join a cabal at war and should suck it up and shut up. However, in the end I am sure everyone has about a thousand different ideas of how to conduct war/vendetta in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindflayer Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Fighting against multiple opponents (at a cabal altar) is part of the FFA thrill of being in a cabal and also part of the heart break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killalou Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Couldnt this be classified as a thread whining about whines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Aulian is always whining, it get's really painful sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted October 12, 2007 Report Share Posted October 12, 2007 Reminds me of treehuggers...and chains...and ridiculously stupid protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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