Zrothum Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 I mean' date=' sure, we can hire double the number of imms that we have now, but there goes another 6-8 players. With the amount of stuff that I, as well as any other member of the immstaff, have on my plate here, there's realistically no way to fully dedicate time to morts.... Unless your name is Zrothum. Maybe we should hire him.[/quote'] I thought about applying, since I have experience building and rather enjoy it. But my past is way too muddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Forsaken Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 I thought about applying. But my past is way too muddy. My past is way too muddy. HAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH MUDDY!! GET IT?! HAHAHAHAH <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegel06 Posted October 29, 2007 Report Share Posted October 29, 2007 well for the part of rp of the char when one is not looking, would there be a way to snoop on them and if they seem to be rping maybe log them until they log off? For example there have been a few RP logs of people rping by themselves and lets say you snoop them and you notice this is there a way to log what they are doing and keep what you have been doing in the mean time? Again I do not know if that is possible but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-D&Der Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I would be opposed to any RP code involving fried food. There's too much obesity as it is and if it included transfats these are very dangerous to the circulatory system. That said, I think this is really a plea for more IMM involvement. Let's fact it, there isn't enough. I condeathed a character across a couple of years and his only IMM interaction came with Eshaine after he scribed a farewell message that he was about to die (it was very good RP, but that was all). That was never the case with previous chars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 My past is way too muddy. HAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH MUDDY!! GET IT?! HAHAHAHAH <3 Hahah I Actually only got it after you pointed it out.. But now I have its pretty funny :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 More IMMs are what we need. More IMMS = 1) More interaction, keeping players happier. 2) More appearance, keeping new players interested, and making sure descriptions get checked so they don't lose interest. 3) Less cheating, keeping everyone happy. 4) More new content, keeping everyone happy. These things, as a whole, yield a happier pbase. A happier pbase is more inclined to remember to vote, because they actually start to care, because they're really enjoying themselves. More voting yields a larger pbase, therefore you don't have to worry about IMMs not having time to play mortals. Do the math, and hire some more IMMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icor Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I can empathize strongly with Celerity's argument, but I do have another feeling on the matter. I went through Mathicus and Flesico without any reward save the enormous fun they were to play. When Imms joined in, it made the experience better, but they were never a necessary motivation for me to keep RPing. But don’t let me dissuade you. I think FL is beyond the point of the RP-Is-Its-Own-Reward philosophy. It has been taught before, but it does not, and has not changed overall player motivation. I am content without a fancy title, blessed items, or the most primitive of rewards, Imm favor. I do not play for those things, and I want that to reflect in my performance. However! Some players RP for the immediate reward even if their RP is not exactly immediate, and there truly is no way to measure that without constant imm surveillance like Izlimak mentioned. These players can not be generalized as bad role-players because of this, though. If the ends justify the means, then players will RP fantastically as long as they get goodies, be the goodies pride of self, or praise of others (enjoyment without imms rewarding you versus imms rewarding you). So, in the grand scheme of things, I believe everyone still plays FL because its fun, regardless of what they expect for their RP effort. And writing line after line of candy-flavored smotes/says is effort. My suggestion is just for the imms to evaluate as best they can why some roleplayers are roleplaying, and then judge their quality of work rather than trying to standardize the best reason for RPing. Getting everyone to RP for the same reasons and rewards is so… so… …Its so Warpnow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Your qualifier is the best part of that post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Right after that thread started I emailed in my own idea for an area' date=' the rp behind it, what it could replace, etc...Now my idea might have sucked, but the thing is I never got any feedback whatsoever. Not even an email saying "look, this idea is not for FL, but thats for trying, we are looking more for " I hold no malice whatsoever but I think this example illustrates that the Immstaff is understaffed and possibly overworked.[/quote'] Mountain Trail Haon Dor Dragon Tower Elemental Canyon Sewer The Great Pyramid Drkshtyre Wood Sands of Sorrow The Barren Highlands Chapel Catacombs The Ford Citadel of Kaer Banor Keep of Myran Dammel Escismir E'gal Those are the areas I was sent back from Malchaeius on the 25th of last month after submitting a few room/mob/item descriptions and the likes to him via email. I resent my updated area but never got a reply back to that but I have gotten an email from him about something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I you phase those areas, do not forget to correct the quests that cross them. And please no more areas like Analgesia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izlimak Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 Right after that thread started I emailed in my own idea for an area' date=' the rp behind it, what it could replace, etc...Now my idea might have sucked, but the thing is I never got any feedback whatsoever. Not even an email saying "look, this idea is not for FL, but thats for trying, we are looking more for " I hold no malice whatsoever but I think this example illustrates that the Immstaff is understaffed and possibly overworked.[/quote'] Those are the areas I was sent back from Malchaeius on the 25th of last month after submitting a few room/mob/item descriptions and the likes to him via email. I resent my updated area but never got a reply back to that but I have gotten an email from him about something else. I would not be against seeing what the two of you have come up with. As a warning label, just because you're sending them doesn't mean that they're going to be put in. There are already several replacement areas that are near completion and ready to be ported over, but I will at least read them and give you honest feedback, whether you like it or not. Email me at Karalius1@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 I you phase those areas, do not forget to correct the quests that cross them. And please no more areas like Analgesia. What's wrong with Anaelgaesia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted October 30, 2007 Report Share Posted October 30, 2007 What's wrong with Anaelgaesia? 1. An area with only five unique descriptions copy and pasted throughout the whole area 2. An evil hospital with undeads and all, in the elf city?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 My only beef with it is none of the MOBs that I seem to kill give me exp. Or at least they used to not. Isabeau even told me she wished she could've added more to it like MOB progs and the likes but either didn't get to or wasn't able to figure out how to. I've seen areas she had built on another MUD and they were quite amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruelEdict Posted October 31, 2007 Report Share Posted October 31, 2007 The name. That is what is wrong with it. It sounds like a rectal infection. What's wrong with Anaelgaesia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinicky Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 The only problem I have with PK is pre-pinn trash PK, with no RP basis. I usually take the 'suck it up princess' philosophy, but there are times I think it is too much. Case in point, I just had a character pre-30 who got killed by an anonymous character and looted of all the decent EQ (some sub-par stuff wasleft, b/c he was being 'nice'). Ok fine, whatever. Even had a nice RP session with him afterwards. His basis for killing me was 'because I was there', but the following RP was nice, so I went about re-equipping and carried on. Right as I get my eq just about caught up, the SAME CHARACTER manages to find me sleeping with low hp and quickly kills me with a few spells. He then proceeds to sac all my eq. Ok, I can expect and understand that at pinn, but when I am not even lev 30 AND he has ranks on me? Twice? I tried to talk to him afterwars - granted, I was irritated, but I kept it all IC. He proceeded to ignore me. To me, that's just trash. So this post is, on the one hand, my view on when PK crosses the line. On the other hand, this is my vent so I don't lose it IG, b/c it really pissed me off. (Also why I kept it anonymous on here). So to those who do that type of crap - maybe class it up. There is nothing classy about cheap kills and full loots on lowbie chars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Actually, that's considered low-level multikilling, which is against the rules. Talk to the IMM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinicky Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Is only two kills considered multikilling? I thought it had to be more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 If it's more than 1, it's multi. Prayer forums or note it to IMM IG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantangel Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Anything more than once per log in session is considered multi-killing. If Imms don't hear about it they can't investigate it. I'd suggest bringing it to prayer forum though where you can outwardly express things rather than in the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinicky Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 I did. I deliberately kept it anonymous here so I wouldn't trash or flame on anyone. At the time I posted it, I was ticked, and used this as a vent for that frustration. I was really tempted to go ooc, and thought, "Man, I better find another way to vent this." I hope that by keeping it anonymous I at least kept it classy enough so as not to trash anyone in particular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 The only problem I have with PK is pre-pinn trash PK, with no RP basis. I usually take the 'suck it up princess' philosophy, but there are times I think it is too much. Case in point, I just had a character pre-30 who got killed by an anonymous character and looted of all the decent EQ (some sub-par stuff wasleft, b/c he was being 'nice'). Ok fine, whatever. Even had a nice RP session with him afterwards. His basis for killing me was 'because I was there', but the following RP was nice, so I went about re-equipping and carried on. Right as I get my eq just about caught up, the SAME CHARACTER manages to find me sleeping with low hp and quickly kills me with a few spells. He then proceeds to sac all my eq. Ok, I can expect and understand that at pinn, but when I am not even lev 30 AND he has ranks on me? Twice? I tried to talk to him afterwars - granted, I was irritated, but I kept it all IC. He proceeded to ignore me. To me, that's just trash. So this post is, on the one hand, my view on when PK crosses the line. On the other hand, this is my vent so I don't lose it IG, b/c it really pissed me off. (Also why I kept it anonymous on here). So to those who do that type of crap - maybe class it up. There is nothing classy about cheap kills and full loots on lowbie chars. pfft, pisses me off too. At least you can get recourse in that lvl range (per Raargant's post). My beef is in the 40-50 range, you have cabaled people...even grouped cabaled people who jump characters who are 5 - 7 lvls below them. They do it repeatedly and hound the characters preventing them from advancing. Its crap, its stupid, and its probably why many people just throw their hands up and say to hell with it. Not to mention that usually there are many people who are viable enemies that are their level, and this is just a situation where players (and usually the same ones) are just going for the easy kills. Relly miffs me good. Nothing discourages me more than being unable to level because some pinn cabal trusted has it out for me for no reason than the fact that they have an advantage of rank, and pinned eq. I validate this statement because in the past these people have hounded me constantly until I pinn..then geuss what! they are nowhere to be found when the field is equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 pfft, pisses me off too. At least you can get recourse in that lvl range (per Raargant's post). My beef is in the 40-50 range, you have cabaled people...even grouped cabaled people who jump characters who are 5 - 7 lvls below them. They do it repeatedly and hound the characters preventing them from advancing. Its crap, its stupid, and its probably why many people just throw their hands up and say to hell with it. Not to mention that usually there are many people who are viable enemies that are their level, and this is just a situation where players (and usually the same ones) are just going for the easy kills. Relly miffs me good. Nothing discourages me more than being unable to level because some pinn cabal trusted has it out for me for no reason than the fact that they have an advantage of rank, and pinned eq. I validate this statement because in the past these people have hounded me constantly until I pinn..then geuss what! they are nowhere to be found when the field is equal. I'd report that. That sounds pretty crap. Killing a pre-pinn once is fine - hounding them? Well thats a little excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 I'd report that. That sounds pretty crap. Killing a pre-pinn once is fine - hounding them? Well thats a little excessive. So you say, but multi-killing is currently NOT regulated in the 40-50 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Yeah I know, but still - there is a line where is becomes unclassy and bad for the game itself. If it is excessive it will be regulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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