Kyzarius Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 No the Lawfull Paladin would chose be an Outcast rather than to break his convictions. A Paladin that sacrifices his life to protect other does not does this just because his god tells him. He will prefer to sacrifice himself than to harm the children. You can be a Godless Paladin, but you cannot be an neutral Paladin. Also just because your god turns evil, it does not mean the Paladin has to follow through. A chaotic paladin, however, will gladly sacrifice his name, his position and his reputation to carry out the will of the divine. For as a mortal how dare he assume he knows better than his chosen diety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calron Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Can this thread die now please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Valsgarde, are any of those definitions you quoted to us from FL help files? No? THEN THEY DO NOT APPLY TO FL! You say you recognize that FL is not D&D, but everything else you say counters that statement. FL ethos is NOT D&D ethos. They do not mean the same things. You want to see how things are meant to work in FL, read FL help files and definitions. As for my paladin... a) undead/demons are creatures of pure darkness and have willingly been perverted by unholy magics... killing them is not racism, it's fighting evil given form; drow and elves have been enemies since the races split... killing them is not racism, it is continuing a war between the species that has gone on for thousands of years in which my character sees himself as a soldier in. He is good; he thinks of what is best for others before what is best for himself and acts accordingly, though he recognizes that sometimes you need to pull a few weeds to get a garden to grow properly. He is chaotic, in that he has no respect for Aabahranian authorities, only following his own conscience and what he believes to be the will of God. These are FL definitions. They are NOT D&D definitions. As I'm playing FL, only one of those definition sets matters at all. Guess which? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted November 27, 2007 Implementor Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Why can't you kids have a civil discussion?! Do I really have to give some of you a nice long forum vacation? (I wonder what you will do with your time then considering the mud is down. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeva Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 (I wonder what you will do with your time then considering the mud is down. ) omg aint that the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croyvern Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Some may consider Abraham the original Paladin, as he was Gods chosen to lead his people in battle and theology, as I recall when asked to kill his own son, he was perfectly willing to go through with it. Given God changed his mind, yet, we can see the original template for paladins had no problem with the sacrifices of wayward children. Just conjecture.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Why can't you kids have a civil discussion?! Do I really have to give some of you a nice long forum vacation? (I wonder what you will do with your time then considering the mud is down. ) Well it was civil, until some people started waving.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I remember that when i read the Bible passage on Abrahan and his son to find that passages very fishy. It appeared to me that the person/angel stopping the sacrifice was quite different from the one that started it. In fact it was nothing like they explained in church. As most passages. Reading the Bible from start to end is quite interesting and disturbing experience... Anyway, Abrahan has nothing to do with Paladins. And a Paladin does not needs to follow a god but a cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 problem is that 99% of people that make tribunals do so because they are afraid to die' date=' and like to use the whole "wanted" threat as a sortof protection in pks, because a lot of other people are afraid to get wanted. this playstyle coulpes quite nicely with less pk-friendly classes with high survivability, since they can use guards to do the work [/quote'] Chuckle? Dont want to die? I doubt anyone is really lining up to fight Triathix to be honest. Not to mention the 3 other cabals filled with outlaws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindflayer Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 problem is that 99% of people that make tribunals do so because they are afraid to die' date=' and like to use the whole "wanted" threat as a sortof protection in pks, because a lot of other people are afraid to get wanted. this playstyle coulpes quite nicely with less pk-friendly classes with high survivability, since they can use guards to do the work [/quote'] This ain't AR sweetheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeva Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 This ain't AR sweetheart i guess thats true. it was really bad there >.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wayward Knight Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Jesus Christ, Valsgarde. I don't think anybody could truthfully insult your intellect, but your intellect can certainly be insulting. It sounds like you'd play a paladin the way I played Alanthen. Maybe. I might have read your... uh... opinions.. wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valsgarde Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Roykagh, thanks. Glad someone understands (even if there is a level of dissagreeance) and is able to give smart, viable arguements for the other side without resorting to dumbassery. Oh. Thank you, Wayward Knight! I like to keep my wit with a harmful edge. As for the first paladin? I'd say that'd probably have to be Michael. Or any of the Seraphim, for that matter...I'm not sure what the chronological order is of God making the Angels out of Light. Anyway, they say name calling means you've lost...so I'll retire from this thread victorious. Thank you, thank you. *takes a bow* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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