HBwillie Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 apparently you dont need reasons. I had a halfling ranger, run over my minotaur the other day for no damned good reason. I told the immortals and they said, "Well, everyone exept maybe healers can get away with it." The halfling you're mentioning had a VERY good reason to kill you. Let's not forget that he was classy, in that he returned what he didn't have use for. If you want the reason, PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 The halfling you're mentioning had a VERY good reason to kill you. Let's not forget that he was classy' date=' in that he returned what he didn't have use for. If you want the reason, PM me.[/quote'] to me there is no excuse for an UNCABALED halfling to kill any neutral class without ever interacting with them. go read help halfling and get back to me. You should be delited to find that halflings are not a murdering race, if you wanted to play a murdering halfling you could atleast have roleplayed it and got it restrung into one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insepiddeception Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 unless the character has an rp that hates you for very valid reasons. just because he didn't conversate with you doesn't mean its silent killer rp, he probably just wanted to jump in for the quick kill is all with the element of surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted January 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 unless the character has an rp that hates you for very valid reasons. just because he didn't conversate with you doesn't mean its silent killer rp' date=' he probably just wanted to jump in for the quick kill is all with the element of surprise.[/quote'] halflings shouldn't be jumping in for the quick kill, regardless of the situations, your missing the point. Unless your evil, or is required in your cabal, the quick kill shouldn't even be a concept to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Dont forget that you can completely negate the warriors high forms of sanctuary with steal. I think bard is the best bet for you, also dont forget Analize. An over rates skill. Minotaur, remenber to keep a notebook of the items you identify. And lore to get the place they come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizz Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Every offensive song requires you to hold an instrument at some point - which isn't going to be possible against any class that can perform an incurable blind like dirt, flamestrike, firestorm, or just having a burning weapon. /QUOTE] I know of an instrument that lets you hold a weapon at the same time. Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Bards do look good on paper. However, as mentioned by other players in this thread, they lack many key skills that are sometimes overlooked.For instance: Blind fighting: If your going to stay in battles with melees (especially rangers) your a dead bard unless your outdamaging them. Weapon selections: Not going to lie, I wish bards had more weapon choices. Pugil is nice to have but they don't stand a chance going head to head with a warrior pugiling a staff while haveing twohanded, parry, dodge, and dual wield. Bash: There are few classes than can bash. Dark knights, Warriors, Berserkers, and Blademasters have a certain skill that is similar in lag ot bash. And unfortunately, these classes are far from the endangered class list. The bard races that have a better chance at not being bashlocked are halfling and dwarf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 Not to mention that uppercut being the most useful skill against a spellcaster is blocked by prot shield. Still I think bards are a lot of fun, they arent designed to be massive killers but are quite survivable for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBwillie Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 to me there is no excuse for an UNCABALED halfling to kill any neutral class without ever interacting with them. go read help halfling and get back to me. You should be delited to find that halflings are not a murdering race' date=' if you wanted to play a murdering halfling you could atleast have roleplayed it and got it restrung into one.[/quote'] OK dude, since you're so bitter about it...the halfling is a member of a clan opposing your cabal. Reason enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 11, 2008 Implementor Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 OK dude' date=' since you're so bitter about it...the halfling is a member of a clan opposing your cabal. Reason enough?[/quote'] IF you rp it and don't just silently pk people. Not directed at this pk, as I didn't watch it but in general: Seriously, I think a lot more of talking should be done, some of you have gotten REALLY good at it, I had a lot of fun snooping some players like Phyrex, Mephizex, Wellaby, just to get a few examples and see them rp in between fights, before fights, after fights. And I don't mean with rping this a little more icly expressed "Hah, I got you and can again anytime I like, sucker" some of you unfortunately confuse with rp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 to me there is no excuse for an UNCABALED halfling to kill any neutral class without ever interacting with them. go read help halfling and get back to me. You should be delited to find that halflings are not a murdering race' date=' if you wanted to play a murdering halfling you could atleast have roleplayed it and got it restrung into one.[/quote'] Why? My halfling from from day 1, rank 1 has had a single motto: If its shiny - steal it, if its female - woo it, if its moving - kill it. I was running around attacking everything for a long time before I was caballed, hell I was going to join WM until Roykagh showed me that flying fish (I <3 you Dey)... So I have to disagree. Who are you to say that he cant be a murdering halfling? He can be whatever his RP determines him to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 who cares about pre 50? most people who will be bashing are ogres or giants... do you really want to fight someone who can use magical arrows, throw magical cards, and cast four seasons? not to mention they can hide and steal your important potions use at pet that trips fully buffed up, on top of the fact that they can trip.... My money is on the bard over any warrior. On top of that, how many classes bash? not to mention they can use scrolls and staves, which im a total noob and i can think of a few reasons that matters at 30. (white aura)Bard flies in (white aura)certain golem flies in (white aura)certain knight flies in bash bard? ... yea right, you'd have to be crazy All credit to Helmsley and HBwillie but if Helmsley was anything but Dwarf I would of laughed him off... First off, that golem will take 2-4 rounds to kill by any decent warrior. Second bashlock anyone? Third - Weapon choice anyone? Fourth - Flight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I'll do my best to prove you wrong' date=' at the very best i can atleast show everyone how far they can go in a noobies hands.[/quote'] The single most important thing about paper and the real game is that people are UNPREDICATABLE. There are SO many dependant things: His hit dam, eq, saves, what beasts he has, what weapons, what warrior lore, what religion he is if he is a cleric, everything is so DEPENDANT. Is the weather good or bad? Are you about to thunderstormed? Are you about to get seared? Has he enfeebled you? Will he use divine intervention now or in three rounds? Will he push or flee and heal? How many curing staves does he have? Is that a necter? Or has he got the lamian stave? Rods of time? Is he a tracker? Am I about to get lagged? Will he bash or trip? Weapon cleave? There are a hundred things that can happen, all personal choice of the person you are versing... So many things can change in an instant and that is the very NATURE of PK. Only through PERSONAL experience will you be PROPERLY able to draw conlcusions on the EFFECTIVENESS of certain things. Things will not work liek you think they do aka - BRAWL. Experiment and find out for yourself. <3 A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted January 11, 2008 Implementor Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Why? My halfling from from day 1' date=' rank 1 has had a single motto: [b']If its shiny - steal it, if its female - woo it, if its moving - kill it. I was running around attacking everything for a long time before I was caballed, hell I was going to join WM until Roykagh showed me that flying fish (I So I have to disagree. Who are you to say that he cant be a murdering halfling? He can be whatever his RP determines him to be. Murdering halfling will usually get himself outcasted -> align changed -> loss of skills as you well know. Your halfling usually just confuses people by talking in a way nobody can understand. From what - I - have seen he's never run around killing randomly. Everybody read help neutral as well if you got the time, can't say this enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Murdering halfling will usually get himself outcasted -> align changed -> loss of skills as you well know. Your halfling usually just confuses people by talking in a way nobody can understand. From what - I - have seen he's never run around killing randomly. Everybody read help neutral as well if you got the time, can't say this enough. exactly... and as far as the halfling ranger goes, he is in a clan not a cabal he can not use cabal warfare as an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted January 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Murdering halfling will usually get himself outcasted -> align changed -> loss of skills as you well know. Your halfling usually just confuses people by talking in a way nobody can understand. From what - I - have seen he's never run around killing randomly. Everybody read help neutral as well if you got the time, can't say this enough. exactly... and as far as the halfling ranger goes, he is in a clan not a cabal he can not use cabal warfare as an excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 exactly... and as far as the halfling ranger goes' date=' he is in a clan not a cabal he can not use cabal warfare as an excuse.[/quote'] Actually thats a pretty good excuse. If you want to get into the Cabal, you kill your cabal of choices enemies... Which would be the clannies and members of your enemy cabals. Caballed members are the ones that should be taking it easier on the non-caballed folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English lad Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Murdering halfling will usually get himself outcasted -> align changed -> loss of skills as you well know. Your halfling usually just confuses people by talking in a way nobody can understand. From what - I - have seen he's never run around killing randomly. Everybody read help neutral as well if you got the time, can't say this enough. Couldn't agree more. But lets take a slightly different angle on this. You RP a bloodthirsty halfling, and you get outcasted. Why is this abad thing? You just got access to RP that most of the mud will never have a chance at. You could start a cult that hates the god that outcasted you, you could go on a quest to earn redemption. You have received an IC punishment for IC actions. Nobody is saying your an OOC twink, but you can make yourself one by quitting the char because of IC responses to your IC actions. RP the bloodthirsty halfling if you want, just accept that getting outcasted is the outcome of your RP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBwillie Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Actually thats a pretty good excuse. If you want to get into the Cabal' date=' you kill your cabal of choices enemies... Which would be the clannies and members of your enemy cabals. Caballed members are the ones that should be taking it easier on the non-caballed folk.[/quote'] My point exactly. The halfling in question was told by a member of his clan's cabal what organization Minotaur's character belonged to. The halfling took it on himself to get in on the action. No foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Crisnae was a halfling healer that got outcasted for being aggressive. The healer guild is specific when it comes to placing lives before death. He lost some key skills, however, he did not delete. Instead he went knight and became a big sore in the side of any evil. Just because of set limitations does not mean you still can't rp something completely different. Inthe end, it's about how you want to contribute to this mud and to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Murdering halfling will usually get himself outcasted -> align changed -> loss of skills as you well know. Your halfling usually just confuses people by talking in a way nobody can understand. From what - I - have seen he's never run around killing randomly. Everybody read help neutral as well if you got the time, can't say this enough. Seriously... How can no one understand me? ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 You know Aulian, I never have trouble understanding you. I actually like talking back and forth with my newest char ( I tried to pay you to sleepy arrow some crap for me to train on ) And we went back and forth with your mangled dialect vs my mangled dialect. At least your unique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 At least your unique? No one appreciates me... Anyone know of any emo rock bands I can soothe my soul with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I hear Boy Meets Sheep has some pretty dark lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I hear Boy Meets Sheep has some pretty dark lyrics. Their name is enough to depress me. NZ band, I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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