English lad Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 So when i get my new pc i decided i'd like to have a bash at an invoker. Will most likely go with good align, elf seems to be the logical choice, but elf hp makes me want to cry. Looking at avians stats and autofly i'm suprised they don't get much action, does the extra 4 intel and autosneak really outweigh better str wis and con, same dex, no equip restrictions and lower exp cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfytheelfy Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 I like avian mages personally, much easier for me to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
random_clown Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Autosneak clowns my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 If you ask me, faerie is the BEST invoker race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English lad Posted January 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Any particular reason? On paper they just look like elves with autofly and even less hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Because of the massive amount of mana they naturally have. They're the ogres of mana. You will NOT need eq to be able to fully charge a staff, and can instead focus everything on hp/saves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfytheelfy Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Pali Knows Best... eww that can be an FL greatign card... Have a shattered looking Human Paladin with a fairy at the end of his sword and it says on the front... "Paly Knows Best" and on the inside it has the paladin impaled by the faires sword (I know funny) and it says "or did" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yea, pali said it best, Faerie invokers are the mage equivilant of ogre zerks. Autofly and autosneak means you cannot get dispelled then triplocked, you never have to worry about 50k for flight orbs/scrolls, and you will have a crazy amount of mana, coupled with faerie mental regen (which from my sources is the fastest of any of the races) you have the potential to have a seriously destructive voker. On a side note if this is your first invoker, spend time learning about mana charge and all its uses, because an invoker without a staff done right is half what it could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Dont think faeries do not have inconvenient. If your protection shield falls, your EXTREMELY low size will make you roll to the Isle of Souls vs any skilled basher. Size affects also a variety of skills, especially the lag related. And thieves will have a field day with you because of the Lack of Faerie Fog/Fire. Although a Faerie Battlemage would be far worse due to FireStorm. Faerie: Pro: 1.5K mana ; Auto-Fly ; Auto-Sneak Con: Extreme low HP's. ; Low STR/weight capacity ; No Faerie Fire/Fog ; Tiny Size For me the Superior race is Avian. Because it can beat both Human and Elf in terms of HP/Mana points, as long as you train from 1 practice. Having 800 base HP is quite good for a Invoker. Air vulnerability is ... a joke. If you want my advice, take the Faerie Invocker, it will make your learning quite a low speedier. You dont need to find the Mana gear, and can focus on HP's gear/Armor. Thieves are thieves, and most kills will come from you getting the Drop on them. Few can take 3 Hellstreams. 1º Free, 2º while they panic and type flee, 3º when you follow the flee and land the killer blow in another room. Also a tip for someone new to invockers. Ignore Hurricane, a Hellstream will do more damage than two Hurricanes. Less mana cost and chance to Blow stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeva Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Air vulnerability is ... a joke. disagree, air lance is in like allll the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Faerie Invoker can have nice HP if you find the right gear - I had 1200 HP with my Faerie Invoker and still had the potential to push that a little further, and that was just from +hp EQ. The low STR you don't really notice after a bit, with an Invoker specifically. With the point about protective shield falling, that won't be an issue 99% of the time (excluding fighting Necromancers/Berserkers) provided you keep a check on your affects list, and use the cancellation spell. The relatively few times you will be caught without protective shield will likely be the same regardless of whether you're a Faerie or any of the other invoker races - you're probably going to be bashlocked to death. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Any magic vuln vs invoker is worthless, since they have mana shield. And 23 dex will help you out in bashlocks, maybe only a little, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Why cant half-elves be invokers or battlemages or clerics? Both humans and elves can... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I prefere Gnome to be honest, Five practices per level and only one practice to learn a skill is quite the bonus at 50, Along with small perks they are good rivals to the 'Neutral' avian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I prefere Gnome to be honest' date=' Five practices per level and only one practice to learn a skill is quite the bonus at 50, Along with small perks they are good rivals to the 'Neutral' avian.[/quote'] Yeah, but they're fragile - even a toddler could break one of these apart wielding any basic melee weapon: Oh, you didn't mean garden gnomes... Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizz Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 I prefere Gnome to be honest' date=' Five practices per level and only one practice to learn a skill is quite the bonus at 50, Along with small perks they are good rivals to the 'Neutral' avian.[/quote'] Anyone who has played a few invokers will probably agree that mals are your problem, plague, poison, insomnia, visitation, dysentary, any of those can seriously wreck your day. So you will be applying more saves towards mals than anything. The gnome mental vuln (if it still exists) will force you to gather more mental saves too, therefore lowering the amount of hp and mal saves you can use since you will be needing to cover all your weaker points. So I still say fae is a better choice. I have pinned a Fae voker, gnome voker, 2 drow, and one elf. Drow is just more fun from an rp point given their social structure, but for overall power, it is faerie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Yes I agree with Faerie's being the logical choice if you want to be good align, But I would not agree Faerie's are newbie friendly, as equipment is a biggy with that low base hp. I would choose gnome if I wanted to be in Watcher and Faerie for Knight and so fourth. Mals you say? Lamian stave ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 There are not nearly enough charges in that thing, and it is rather hard to get ahold of alot of the time, heralds usually hoarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WagesofSin Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Actually, I found that you don't need to have too many saves as a gnome. As a voker, you throw out insanely large amounts of damage at such a short time you'll prolly kill the nutter before slow damage over time spells will kill you. Then you just run to a healer and heal yourself before it really starts hurting. As a voker, I found classes like shamans or Clerics to be pretty easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Ask Deykari about how good his saves usually where when he fought my poorly trained shaman vs Enell , and my first pinned shammy ever. Saves are a VERY important part of it. And after playing Vasraema and Krondrin, Shamans are my least enjoyable fight, because a smart shaman lands a mal, cures to full, lands a mal, cures to full, unless he is firing them off at will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Faeries cant defend very well at all. I pinned and cabaled three faiere invokers. They are pretty good, with the right eq you can pump the hp to 1100 +, but, they are weak conned get sick easy and dont parry worth a damn. Their mana may regen faster than any, but their hp regens slower than any. Heck a drow has to die like 20 times o get down to a faries con, heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 That is why i love Avian 19 STR and CON. I can go from dead to full health in 4 ticks, as long i have eluded persuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Curative consumables help a lot in that respect if you stock up well. Though there's only so many you can carry, and they do get burnt up fast. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 Deykari needs to explore more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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