WarriorCleric Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Just let people run around posting the crap that they think is true and isn't. When they overstep the bounds the imms will slap em back in line and if they start shooting off untrue information it just adds to the mystery of the class. Best thing people in the know can do is just sit back and laugh at the people who are perpetuating the false ideas, no need to confirm or deny anything. Just be greedy with what you know. Atleast thats how I see it. I guess I just get a little upset when I see vets saying something vague with a little winky attached. You guys should know better. WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpnow Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Fight him IN town...militia won't help him. He has responsiilities to his cabal, advantage on them. Let a healer with divine retribution take the blows(bit more obvious than the rest, eh?) Let the healer use a few other of his spells which will knock Martineius on his ***. Have an ogre to lag him. Have a cleric using their spell on him. Watch him get owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 *looks at his light damage staff* Gadzooks! you mean if im not the main tank I can pound the ever loving screaming snot out of him with this and laglock him too!?!? Who'd of thunk it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icor Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Fight him IN town...militia won't help him. He has responsiilities to his cabal, advantage on them. Let a healer with divine retribution take the blows(bit more obvious than the rest, eh?) Let the healer use a few other of his spells which will knock Martineius on his ***. Have an ogre to lag him. Have a cleric using their spell on him. Watch him get owned. ... Gang him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannym4n Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 That's the general consensus for the extreme end right now. For those that can't take him solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I think this is actually funny. You're discussing ganging a character aloud on the forum when all I ever hear from the players is how "trashy" it is and how we IMMs need to "deal with it". Guess it's okay when you're in the gang, or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I'm chuckling too. It used to be, "If you can't win, get better." Now, evidently, "If you can't win, gang." Eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorCleric Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Ganging has always been a viable option since the begining of FL. The problem is when it's used. Ganging at level 30 is trashy, Ganging people you don't need to gang is trashy, Ganging people who are damn good and you can't take out, hey, it's whats got to be done from time to time. Also, ganging in so far as cabal warfare is bound to happen. It comes with the turf. At least thats how it was always told to me in the past. If things have changed, I do withdraw my opinion. WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Nah. Things are still that way. It doesn't make it any less funny though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grannym4n Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I'm along the same lines. I've never complained of ganging because I honestly see no problem with the RP aspect of it..so it should be allowed, like everything else. So logically, just as WC pointed out, if you -can't- do it yourself, get help. I'd rather call it being smart than ganging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 How about fairness of gameplay, and respect for skill in general? I've never been a fan for ganging. It encourages only one thing. Mediocrity...and a vicious cycle. But that's just me, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfytheelfy Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 How about fairness of gameplay, and respect for skill in general? I've never been a fan for ganging. It encourages only one thing. Mediocrity...and a vicious cycle. But that's just me, I guess. ^^ Yep ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfytheelfy Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Fight him IN town...militia won't help him. He has responsiilities to his cabal, advantage on them. Let a healer with divine retribution take the blows(bit more obvious than the rest, eh?) Let the healer use a few other of his spells which will knock Martineius on his ***. Have an ogre to lag him. Have a cleric using their spell on him. Watch him get owned. I should not have to gang to have a chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Kid Wonder Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 If Tribs can gang people and call it cabal warfare, then why can't other cabaled people gang Tribs and call it cabal warfare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Kid Wonder Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 N/a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Because they were all outlaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I don't approve of Tribunal ganging either; I never liked it when Justices did it to my char, and I never liked other Justices interfering with my captures on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I agree, I dont like ganging others and I dont like being ganged. I guess thats what bounties are for And full loots! Revenge muhahahhaah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boy Kid Wonder Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Alright, Watchers have ganged Tribs for one main reason. Because Tribs gang Watchers. If several Tribunals can band together and take out the one watcher that is prolly naked cuz Marti mauled them over, then watcher can gang tribs to hell. It was said by an IMM, that if Tribunal gang watcher. Watcher have FULL leway to gang their asses back. They don't like it, they can shove it. Personally I don't like ganging in any aspect, but have I done it? Yes. I openly admit to having ganged someone. Did I feel accomplished afterwards? Not really. I felt like an *******. I think you should ONLY be allowed to gang someone if they attack your cabal. Not if you are losing a fight. Or too scared to do it alone. Yeah its life and all, but hey. No one really likes ganging seeing how everyone bitches about it 24/7. I think it would just be best if IMMs put a stop to ganging unless you openly attack their cabal. In that case you should get what you came for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Alright' date=' Watchers have ganged Tribs for one main reason. Because Tribs gang Watchers. If several Tribunals can band together and take out the one watcher that is prolly naked cuz Marti mauled them over, then watcher can gang tribs to hell. It was said by an IMM, that if Tribunal gang watcher. Watcher have FULL leway to gang their asses back. They don't like it, they can shove it.QUOTE'] ehh, what came first the chicken or the egg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teralis Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Hmmm no ganging? maybe someone should inform the 4 guys that ganged me with guns 1 block away from my home 2 years ago demanding my wallet. Jeez. Ps The cops were following in Tribunals footsteps also, it took them two hours to get to the house to take my statement. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 And this is how it goes...Tribs will say "Tribs only gang criminals because criminals gang us." Or Watchers. Or outlaws. See how ganging except in rare instances just perpetuates itself? It soon becomes ridiculous. And to delfy: Cabal warfare situations, i.e. having to do with standards only, are the only situations where ganging is expected by the IMMs. You attack a cabal, prepare for the reckoning. Anything else is PK, not cabal warfare. Cabal warfare has to do only with the taking, retrieval, and defending of standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfytheelfy Posted February 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 how am I, as an Oak, suppose to know if say marty and "insert watcher I dont know" are fighting, if one has a standard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 You don't. But the cabaled person in Watcher should be calling you off so they aren't receiving clan interference. And around the altars, you should know better, i.e. the situation should be clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chayesh Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 Additionally, delfy, why are you jumping in their fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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