Minotaur Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 As a beastmaster ranger, whats the best third pet you can get? also can you have three pets and a cabal pet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGuy Posted January 18, 2008 Report Share Posted January 18, 2008 1 Depends. Experiment, and see what you like best yourself. 2. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Can you please post the Newbie Questions on the Newbie part of the Forum ? Dont play rangers, cant answer you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Uhhh, the third pet from what I have seen is always a raven. I have never seen a beastmaster ranger with his 3 pets and a cabal pet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted January 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Uhhh, the third pet from what I have seen is always a raven. I have never seen a beastmaster ranger with his 3 pets and a cabal pet. how is a raven supposed to be a tradeoff with the stuff archers and trackers get??? thats horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Considering that Most classes can recite a single scrolls and be immune to ranged weapons, then a simple Raven is better than nothing. Don't rangers get 3 things per path ? If the extra pet is one of them, what are the others ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vobbe Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Group concealment (how do you spell that? =) and group herb I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister E Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Extra pet, group herb, pack call, horn of nature Also the pets they summon are higher level, lvl 51 at 50. Some of the stuff a lvl 51 pet does can be scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted January 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Group concealment (how do you spell that? =) and group herb I think. group concealment is for trackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted January 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 also i know rangers can summon a range of pets, some basic ones are... raven,leopard,displacer beast and mammoth. Do you have to be in a specific area to get the other ones, because when i try to call them they usually aren't around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Different areas do affect ease of calling on different creatures. And do a help mind link, the raven isn't totally useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 What is horn of Nature ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 You can call pets anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted January 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 What is horn of Nature ? help "horn of nature" gives a pretty good description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted January 19, 2008 Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 Frankly, these are all ranger path skills, very similar to speaking about warrior select skills, and other taboo stuff. However, since so much has been divulged about rangers during my time in fl, I will tell you my opinions and experience. Beastmaster is good because you are allowed to call on beasts anywhere, be it city, mountain, or sea. You also get the pack call skill which is extremely helpful when you are in cabal warfare. The third beast is not really something I appreciated, mainly because ANY ranger can have three pets if he is in certain cabals. In addition to all of this, a beastmaster will stronger pets than other ranger path beasts. So, it really depends on what you want to play. A beastmaster is for those who like to brute force there way around with three good pets. A tracker is for those players that know how to utilize every aspect of their class in order to dominate their opponents(As much as I hate to give him credit, Triathix proves this). The tracker is also good for those players that don't want their pets giving their positions away during battle. The doublesheath skill is also an essential bonus. The archer is for those that like to whittle their opponents down from afar. Great for beginning ranger players. But always remember that your arrows aren't all you need to win a pk battle. I hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minotaur Posted January 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2008 seems like either beastmaster or archery would be for the classes that need that extra offense boost like elf/halfling, and Tracker would be for those classes who need the extra finese like stone/ogre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Triathix does not tracks, he peers into the future and know where you will be before you even decide to go there. He then proceeds to follow the tracks so that you look normal. If you ever get bored, get a thief/ninja and go play submarine hunt with him. I doubt you will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 seems like either beastmaster or archery would be for the classes that need that extra offense boost like elf/halfling' date=' and Tracker would be for those classes who need the extra finese like stone/ogre.[/quote'] Actually, I think beastmaster fits any race, since any ranger benefits from the increased level. But in my opinion, beastmaster is about playing a ranger as you normally would, but with bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Beastmaster: Availability: For every race. Played about 1500 hours on beastmasters. I found them lacking compared to the other classes. Whilst stalk with a raven is nice it is nothing compared to just dropping the beast and having a cabal pet. Archer: Availability: For the Weaker Races Played about 900 hours on Archers and I would have to say that this is the best choice for smaller races with low str. This is because carrying all those extra things you need to throw with a Tracker can all begin to add up when your str is very low. Arrows weigh next to nothing and whilst they can be made useless, they still have the possibilty to hamper and hit a wide range of vulns. Tracker: Availability: The higher strength races. I have about 600 hours experience on a tracker and I have to say that having high STR is absolutely essential, especially if you are planning on carrying a couple of heavy shields or weapons to throw at your opponent. having to lug that around with a low STR race becomes completely impossible when you have to carry orbs of recall/flight and glimmering staffs not to mention your weapons you need to survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killalou Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Beastmaster: Availability: For every race. Played about 1500 hours on beastmasters. I found them lacking compared to the other classes. Whilst stalk with a raven is nice it is nothing compared to just dropping the beast and having a cabal pet. Archer: Availability: For the Weaker Races Played about 900 hours on Archers and I would have to say that this is the best choice for smaller races with low str. This is because carrying all those extra things you need to throw with a Tracker can all begin to add up when your str is very low. Arrows weigh next to nothing and whilst they can be made useless, they still have the possibilty to hamper and hit a wide range of vulns. Tracker: Availability: The higher strength races. I have about 600 hours experience on a tracker and I have to say that having high STR is absolutely essential, especially if you are planning on carrying a couple of heavy shields or weapons to throw at your opponent. having to lug that around with a low STR race becomes completely impossible when you have to carry orbs of recall/flight and glimmering staffs not to mention your weapons you need to survive. Dont you mean dex? Im pretty sure dex was what affected how many things you can carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 Dont you mean dex? Im pretty sure dex was what affected how many things you can carry. Nah i mean str... Ever played a halfling and had to carry a whole bunch of heavy crap around its not the number of how many things you can carry thats the problem, its the amount of weight you can manage that I found effects the ranger much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calron Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 If I have time I will write up something more complete, but I will just make a few general remarks for now. Beastmaster: While a lot of people consider this the underdog selection, it also takes no extra skill to use. The added wham of a third pet can also make a difference, especially if you use them right. (ie, flee a lot and take advantage of your massive opener rounds). VERY newbie friendly, especially if you are still having trouble keeping up with other aspects of PK. Archery: This path is fairly easy to get about 50% out of without extra effort (Just make some arrows and they'll fire themselves!). The next 25% is tactical: knowing when to use which arrows versus whom. This means a lot. The last 25% you can get out of this path is all about speed. If you aren't above average in speed it will be difficult to fully utilize this part, the out-of-combat archery part. However, if you are fast enough and get the whole 100% you will make people want to cry. Tracker: This path has a lot of potential, but it also takes a lot of extra "finicking around", so to speak. Again, if you are still struggling with other parts of PK (keeping affects up, chasing, running, feeling in control in general) don't pick this path. Doublesheath requires a bit of forethought, and than you have to deal with in combat switching. Tracking is certainly nice but again, if you aren't on top of everything else already, you don't want to deal with this. Throwing can also be tedious with keeping shields (and weapons sometimes) and setting aliases for them, etc. In summary, Beastmaster is basically a standalone path. Archery and Tracker require a lot more finesse/preparation/stuff to do but have great potential if you can manage. Having a ton of ranger experience, I would say Archery is potentially the strongest path (or was before these scrolls ). The damage + effects is awesome. Tracker is useful too, but in a lot of ways it is what I consider the lazy persons path. I say that because it adds almost nothing extra. If you aren't lazy you don't need tracking or doublesheath. (Who says you can't chase and switch weapons already?) Throw is nice but weapon throwing is only useful in very select situations, and shield throwing, while nice for lag, is not particularly reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 And all it takes is a dirt kick to stop all that, where as archery will keep firing even blind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 And all it takes is a dirt kick to stop all that' date=' where as archery will keep firing even blind [/quote'] And keep doing jack against my missile shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted January 20, 2008 Report Share Posted January 20, 2008 And keep doing jack against my missile shield. Those scrolls are expensive and don't last very long. A smart PKer would just see your affects and land a timely dirt kick so you won't be able to recite another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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