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I don't know how.

But I'll give the same response as I do to everyone who's at work or school and wants to mud when they should work. Don't. It's more trouble than it's worth.

I don't understand this desire to not focus or do what you're paid to. Maybe there's just something wrong with me. :confused:

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I don't understand this desire to not focus or do what you're paid to. Maybe there's just something wrong with me. :confused:

I'm not trying to come off as a prick or anything, but the premise is simple. If I have the choice of being paid to do tedious, mind-numbing work, or being paid to MUD, I know what I'd choose, provided I knew I could get away with it. If not, I'd weigh the risk up against the gains, and take a chance if I thought it was worth it.

To put things in perspective, in the last 3 years I have spent about 25% of my time doing something productive (well, productive in terms of what I am supposed to be getting paid for) but, well, it's the company's own fault for having p***-poor IT monitoring.

Just for the record, I am not attempting to promote laziness and a poor work ethic.

Dey

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To put things in perspective, in the last 3 years I have spent about 25% of my time doing something productive (well, productive in terms of what I am supposed to be getting paid for) but, well, it's the company's own fault for having p***-poor IT monitoring.

Just for the record, I am not attempting to promote laziness and a poor work ethic.Dey

If I ran a business and I found my employee's using the connection, the one I pay for so that they may do their job better, to play games or surf myspace or facebook or anything not work related... I'd probably fire them.

Email? That's cool. Instant messenger? I'm leaning towards not cool, but a big maybe. MUDs or myspace or face book? I'd fire you on the spot. Same with too much cell phone work or txting.

The employer does not have a responsibility to make sure you're doing your job. That is your responsibility. Personally, if I pay you to do something and you're instead playing a mud... you're taking money from me for something you're not doing. I call that stealing.

The thought that it's the company's fault for "piss poor IT managment" is ... I don't know how to word it... laughable... I guess. Damn that company for thinking you're going to act like an adult and do the job you promise them you would do when you took the job. Regardless if you said, "I promise" or signed a contract or didn't do either, your word is what got you the job. And when you're busted for breaking your word, don't expect to get a good recommendation from the boss...

Example. My ex was fired from her job for doing myspace and facebook too much. She did her job well (worked 3rd shift at a home for mentally disabled elderly), but just would be on the phone (her personal cell) or internet too much. since that she was fired from that job she's lost her health benefits and is a cashier at some store working for min wage. Last I heard she was calling around begging for money so she could pay the rent for her and her drug addict of a boyfriend who is jobless.

The basic run down is this: Don't do it if you value your job. When you're caught, you only fark it up for everyone else on the network by causing management and IT to take away privileges like Pandora or streaming audio or what have you. At the worst, you lose your job and they do that anyways.

But if you really want to proxy it up, there are tons of free proxy sites at your whim, Google "Free proxy" and you'll find a website in the first page that is dedicated to the various elements of free proxies with walkthroughs and installs on both. I've heard of a program that runs off a thumb drive called Torpark or something similar. Use at your own risk.

a-g

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If you flunk out of college playing this damn game, I WILL find you and they will NEVER find all the pieces of you.

I mean that in the most non-sociopathic, encouraging way possible.

I would wager that you could replace "flunk out of college" with "get fired from your job" or "lose your girlfriend" or "ruin your marriage", and it would still hold true.

Don't MUD at work. It's bad news bears.

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The employer does not have a responsibility to make sure you're doing your job. That is your responsibility. Personally, if I pay you to do something and you're instead playing a mud... you're taking money from me for something you're not doing. I call that stealing.

That's the essence of it in my opinion. You're getting paid to do work. You aren't doing your work, but you still want the money. What else is that besides stealing? If you hired a contractor to build you a house, then he does nothing but still wants to take your money, what else is that?

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Dey! Duck back into your hole! Three heat seeking missiles headed your way!

Seriously. Find a place to hide. Hehe.

EDIT: After some thought what it really comes down to is human nature. Nobody really wants to do any more work than they have to. If you could be "given" a million dollars, you damn well better not tell me that you wouldn't take it. And if you say yes, you would, how have you earned it? You haven't. So why work when you don't have to, if you can get the money without working? Simple. Because you want to look good to the rest of society. You're kidding yourself if you say you do it to be honest or to be an upstanding citizen. What a human is best at, deep down, is looking out for number one. Why put yourself through extra (dis)stress (work) when you don't have to? Now, understood that this may cause you to lose your job or girlfriend or what have you, but I think Dey covered that with the "weighing risk up against the gains" portion of his post.

Might just be me not liking to see one dude get attacked like that... I dunno. ^_^

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In most places of employment, the work is never done.

Work in a restaurant that's empty around 3PM? Take that time to sweep the floors, roll some silverware, or do some dishes from the prep work that's probably going on in the kitchen.

Work in an office that gets slow after lunch? Work on that proposal that could get you promoted, or help a coworker get something done. Ask the boss if they need anything.

Work in a retail store that is really slow on Mondays and Tuesdays after dinner? Straighten things up, do a little stocking and merchandising, and get out early.

Having worked in multiple different environments (I'm currently at my 7th job since I turned 14), the best way to get promoted or get a pay raise, or just to generally be on the good side of your boss (really helps when requesting time off or getting friends hired) is to be proactive. As long as you're on the clock, you should never have idle time, because I 99% guarantee that there is something you can be doing.

If all the work is done, do your employer a favor and clock out and go home. Your employer is showing you good will by keeping you employed and giving you a regular paycheck. Why pay them back by abusing their internet connection and money? Clock out, go home, and MUD from there.

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If all the work is done... then find more. You're still getting paid to be at your desk, then get paid for doing work at your desk, not web surfing.

I don't even like the idea of gaming during a break at work. That's not what work is meant for... sure, your break is a 15 minute time to unwind... but do it not using company resources.

Nothing pissed me off more when I'd be at work and some girl would be at her register txting away and not ringing someone out. Or when shelves were to be stocked the stock boys would be emailing or what not. Just crazy. If I'm the only one doing work.... and I get praised for a "job well done", then there is something very wrong. I half *** a lot, but if it is something that doesn't need perfection. That beer is going to be ransacked on a Saturday morning when the doors open, it doesn't have too look that pretty.

a-g

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Here at FL, we are a community. We believe this means looking out for each other, and giving advice (especially when it isn't asked for). So if you ever ask a question regarding how to do something that could be illicit, expect to get an earful.

Look at us like your Resident Adviser from college. We're here to guide you. And when it comes to dangerous or illegal activity, we're probably going to tell you all the reasons you shouldn't do things, how you could get caught and what could happen if you do, and what we would do if we were in your situation. Then, as long as you share, we will probably drink a toast to you with your unlawfully purchased beer and your mind-altering substances.

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Yeah. But... well.

I dunno.

Since I have been out of the work force for awhile, my attitude on work has changed drastically. That last job I talked about was retail, min wage. Sucked. But now, looking at it... I could have done a lot better and I'm ashamed of myself.

Why?

Here it is. Jobs, in this area, are hard to come by, and hard to keep. A fellow FLer said "if you've got a reason to work harder, you'll do it." But the reason really should be to keep your job.

In central new york, jobs are hard to get. Sure, go to McDonalds. But that just is not good enough for a lot of people. If you're working a job doing the bare minimum... then why should you keep your job? There are a TON of people willing to work twice as hard for the same pay, sometimes less. Prove yourself to your employer. Make him glad he hired you.

People in my area are losing jobs left and right. Sometimes of no fault of their own and simply because of downsizing. My father's work canned half their IT department because they couldn't afford them. They need them, but they just can't afford it. So it's not just unskilled labour in the crunch around here.

So bust your ***, because your job is never 100% safe. Prove to your boss that you are an asset to the company. And continually prove it. It's the only way you'll have a fighting chance during the next round of job cuts.

And... I wasn't attacking Dey. It looked like it I guess, and I'm sorry. I was merely ranting about poor work ethic... and I don't mean to imply the original poster, dey, or anyone else here has a poor ethic at work. I was just ranting. I respect all you guys and gals. Now... when I get a job with you, that's when I judge your work ethic. ;)

a-g

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I used to be a slacker. Through and through. Would even have 'slacking' contests with other co-workers to see who could do less work.

Then, I grew up. Realized you need to work to eat. Work to have a roof over your head. Work to have nice things.

Mommy and Daddy won't support you forever. Either work hard, or enjoy being 35 and still living at home with the folks.

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I'll toss in my perspective; which is if there is no other work to be done, and your job allows it, go for it.

At my previous job I worked the IT side of the stick. I had nothing to do until something crashed, died, lost powers, or just went wrong. During my interview I asked how many open tickets I could expect day to day, having come from a very busy 'always something to do' job, they said 'Based on your resume I'd bring a book.' (Perks of moving from a public repair depot to an in house job.) When all work was done, I had free reign to play games, read books, watch movies, whatever I wanted. I played lots of games, no FL though, I was heavy into WoW at the time and couldn't justify installing that on the work computers. But I played tons of games at work, surfed a lot of Fark, I even shared a lot of games with my bosses, we even held interoffice competitions a few times. One week to test monitors and projectors we brought in a Wii.

So, some people have a green light to play at work, I know I did, and I won't judge anyone who want's to.

Now being that I worked in the IT department, I had control over the traffic and the ability to monitor it. And I can tell you that if something is blocked, it's blocked for a reason. When one computer is continually accessing a private, off site location, there is a problem. I don't know what kind of work any of you do, so I don't know how secure your network needs to be, but our networks needed to be locked down fairly tight. We held housing and billing information for anyone living on campus at the University, and all the budget and contract information that the department used.

If you circumvent the security of your job's network, for whatever reason, you are putting all that the job wants to keep secure at risk. So I'll ask you the question I asked countless people requesting access to blocked material: Is your worth a client or contract? Is it worth your job? Is it worth my job? Because when something goes wrong, and it will, you're not the only person on the block.

WC

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*backfists Evangelion all the way back to Aabadoned realms*

google was my first option nothing there, I've asked some nerds at work, no luck there, wondering if anyone had the problem as me in the past n cud offer advice s'all i want 'sall i need. I will more than likely only be mudding in my hour long lunch breaks, its not that long but its still enough to get my some training in.

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Mommy and Daddy won't support you forever. Either work hard, or enjoy being 35 and still living at home with the folks.

Do your job to make money. Work your *** off because you like your job. That's the way I see it anyway. The fear of getting fired and chewed out will only make you work just that hard.

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I may of forgotten to mention I need a proxy to run the mud client, most of these links bring up proxys to bypass websites, I've already tried to bypass the telnet program on the website no luck, ahh well i'll keep looking.

Cheers A L I G.........mud

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