Finding that Pk

[Ali_gmud]

Whats your guys searching method of finding that paladin or dark knight lerking about the realms, do you search area by area as you go about?

Do you look in areas that you've previously searched incase the target is

moving about?

Do you check those little hiding spots located all about?

or has it simply never been a issue, have you always found whom your looking

for?

Any hints or suggestions?

[Kyzarius]

theres some crafty ways to find people, I wont share..hahaha

[Anoneemus]

Yeah sometimes you know. I think everybody's somewhat hesitant to answer this question; if I told you my methods of searching, you'd be able to evade me pretty easily, wouldn't you?

[Ali_gmud]

Come on, share

I just want to compare other peoples methods.

When I used to play my shaman, I would always plague my enemies who were running away (classes that couldn't cure it) and they wud often run past low level mobs wud die within few hours, it doesnt work 100% of the time, but it leaves a path of where they've been it sometimes can show you where they could be and the path they took.

Then I would locate the corpses, its how I find that speedy anoying little faerie most of the time, I'm not sure if that person knows whom talkin about....

[English lad]

To be honest most of my characters have been extreme's - Knights or Despair (not Nexus as yet - can't seem to stick with evils long enough) As such PK is pretty much ever present, and you don't have to go looking for it. Thats kinda of built in RP/PK combination with the cabals, but the best PK should always be driven by RP.

Don't 'go looking for PK' just RP and see what happens. If you become someone's arch nemesis/hated enemy you'll likely get lots more PK from it than if your goal is to go out searching around for someone to fight for its own sake.

[KRins]

I PK as it presents itself which generally means when someone is after me. That or I taunt the person until they get so pissed they call me out and tell me to meet them at a certain place...I suck at hide and seek.

[Anoneemus]

Come on, share

I just want to compare other peoples methods.

When I used to play my shaman, I would always plague my enemies who were running away (classes that couldn't cure it) and they wud often run past low level mobs wud die within few hours, it doesnt work 100% of the time, but it leaves a path of where they've been it sometimes can show you where they could be and the path they took.

Then I would locate the corpses, its how I find that speedy anoying little faerie most of the time, I'm not sure if that person knows whom talkin about....

Chasing is different than finding. Telling you where and how I look for somebody I have a mind to kill, and where I don't look for them, is honestly a pretty big handicap.

Wait..now that you mention it..I never look anywhere near the Dragon's Teeth Mountains, or the Dwarf Forest, or any popular ranking areas. Yup. Darn, now I guess I'll never catch anybody.

[WarriorCleric]

Well, if they aren't 50 it's a lot easier to find someone. Check the ranking areas, if they aren't there, then check places that have level newly accessible for the level. If not there, then check 'training' areas.

If I can't find them by then, it's just not worth the trouble in my book and I do something else.

If I am chasing them, then I don't stack anymore than four directional commands, then follow it with two wheres to figure directions, if I can't determine direction I keep using where until I know. If it's an area with limited pathways, I'll add more than four directions. They suddenly disappear? Check their hometown. If I don't know their hometown I bolt to Rheydin first, checking any hometowns on my way to Rheydin.

I really don't see how sharing how you track someone makes it any harder to track them in FL. It's not like they are going to start avoiding soft ground after the rain...

Lately I stumbled onto a pretty cheesy way of finding people that requires no skill what so ever, you just can't be a dumbass. I tracked everyone in my PK range over the last two days with it, and well over half of those outside my pk range. I think it's bull****, but the staff seems okay with it so I'll share. (Not a slight against the staff, I think a lot of things in FL are bull****, this is just one, it doesn't mean I hate the staff for the game. Just my opinion on the use of this command. Hell, the whole reputation system seems like subpar encoded rp.)

Reputation.

Use the reputation command.

Are they at a good reputation or worse with elves? Check the Elven Valley or City.

Is your enemy level ~20 evil and his Faerie rep is bellow excellent? Well I'd check the emerald forest or Escimir. Is it a good with low faerie rep in the 30-40 range, I'd check Escimir as well.

Low Minotaur rep, that's a no brainer, Mahn-tor here I come.

Troll rep down, you know where they have to be.

Low midlevel goods/neutrals with subexcellent Vampire rep? Tombs. Undead? Mansion.

All you do is compare the reputation of your target with the available mobs at his level and It's an easy cross section. Does this work for every target at all times? No.

It hits midlevel characters the hardest, it hits melee classes more than Mages, it defeats training anatomies on mobs.

This is a command that everyone gets and everyone can use from level 1 on, and can be used on anyone. I personally feel it shifts burden of starting to PK someone onto the person who will be target. You used to be able to minimize being jumped while ranking/training by using unusual areas, not with the reputation command.

This is a PK game, you are going to be vulnerable at all times, but this just makes the game difficult to play if you are not on the offensive in the midlevels. And that's the big deal, it's not being skillful spending no more than two passes in any one ranking area before moving to another, that's just unnecessary hassle.

I'm sharing this with everyone because if everyone knows then it's an even playing field, because the relative few who have figured this out and horded it away as a little secret are reaping the rewards/acclaim of being skillful hunters when really they are just using a command in a way I don't believe it was originally intended to be used. ANd if it was intended to be used this way, well everyone knows.

WC

[Anoneemus]

Well, if I'm after a level 20-30 good the tombs are the first place I check anyways. Same goes for emerald forest. There aren't that many places to rank, I'm not sure how knowing where they rank will help you that much.

One thing I have done on some of my evils is ask a good if they would like to hunt. They never check who you are if they're busy, they just say "I already hunt" or "I am training". If they don't answer, they're training. If they try to RP with you, they're doing jack. So don't talk to strangers, kids!

[Imoutgoodbye]

I've noticed a lot of hunting areas that aren't used much anymore.

Hint, hint.

[WarriorCleric]

If you don't see how this helps then you're blind, because I already said it. Anyway, I don't know about you, but I avoid the Tombs and Emerald like the plague. When I rank, I do my best to stay away from any typical places I can, especially when ranking solo. With a group I am far less concerned. Level 25/30ish goodies of mine are ranking on deurgars. Not a typical place to rank, but it doesn't matter.

My evils never touch emerald except maybe when it's time for rangers. But the alternative places are null with this command.

Like I said, I tracked everyone in my pk range, and most people on while I was on over the last two days with the reputation command alone. It didn't take me even five minutes to find anyone either, I knew exactly where most of them were with the first use. And you're saying that doesn't help much?

And it's not just ranking, it's training. Training anywhere, unless your just spamming spells, means killing things. Now everyone can't be as perfect as the elite players and train only on that one mob who never dies, but to say that the reputation command doesn't help means you haven't used it or you were godlike with your tracking of mid-ranked players already.

I found damn near everyone with it, now everyone else can too. If you don't think it's a help, don't use it. I found it amazingly useful.

WC

[Ali_gmud]

This post was sort of aimed at for finding peoples at level 50

finding pk's at lower levels is quite easy unless its some dk or shammy

sitting on level 30 just training somewhere miles away.

When you're at 50 most of the time people have trained, and dont hunt no more unless they are helping others rank. so finding your victim gets a little harder I find.

[Grumpy]

Most of the time, I can't really be bothered to find my prey, so I just let everyone know exactly where I am, saves me the trouble.

[Ex-D&Der]

Play a tracker ranger.

[a-guitarist]

Play a tracker ranger.

Why? After learning you can check the reputation other players... it becomes essentially void. Reputation changes so quickly when ranking/training that you can know where someone is within 20 minutes (or less) of them being there and active.

As for tracking players at 50? You already know what clan/cabal they are in, get them to come to you. There is a very simple way of doing it... attack their clan/cabal hall. Aside from that, if they don't answer to that or they aren't in any of them, call them out. Tell them you're gonna kill them, or that you intend to. And then see what happens. I've found they either log out, or come right to you.

Think about it... you're telling that big bad *** (wannabe/soon-to-be or not) that you're gonna off his pretty, little, cupcake butt... what's he gonna do? "Well, I really wish you'd respect me for my mind."? Nope. He's gonna quaff a "harden up, princess" potion and try and prove that you have no business talking trash to him.

Also: Patience. It takes time to find them. If a Ninja has to wait three days (by popular consensus) to kill a player, then an extra twenty minutes is nothing for you. When I actively search for a player, it depends on race.

Evil? I start in Val Miran, and start heading east. On the eastern road, I check every area north and south of it, walk one room in, "where", if nothing? Keep going east. Get to Rheydin, head north and south of it for a little ways checking "where". You get the drift... continue until the isle of exile.

Good? Start a Miruvhor, head south to the Shadow Grove and look through there. (Mansion is the key place), then head west. In the Forsaken lands, head south to Seringale (or whatever it's called in FL... heh, can't recall for the life of me.) Keep heading west.

Neutral? Find out who has more players on, goods or evils, then label them a "good" or "evil" depending on which has more, and head out according.

Tracking is really an art that is dependant on classes and races that you're tracking.

If you're tracking a person that has create spring, "c 'locate' spring" Tracking a ranger? "c 'locate' steak". A monk or druid? "c 'locate' pile" If you don't have locate? "Tell Invoker I've got 20,000 gold coins to you if you tell me where all the magical springs are that are in the lands." Also, is it a Melee? Check Elemental to see if they're collecting the detect invis dust, then to Ogre city to find them at pills. Then to the Cloud Kingdom(city?) for the fruit that cures stuff. If it's a mage? That's a bit tougher for me. Look in the strangest places first. The spider queen west of Val Miran. The Swamp. Yekosavik's or Malignant's house. (They are training sanctuaries for spell spamming, for reasons I'm not sure if I can explain here)

Basically it's some kind of logic, I guess. Find out what that class would need, and look for them there. Melee's will need consumables. Rogues will be hidden and just knock you out when you walk in... in other words, they find you , and Mages/cc's, they sit in out of the way places making their food and water and talking smack to each other. If you're looking for a herald? Start some massive war between some cities, and watch them come out of the wood works. If it is a ninja? Give it up, any good ninja at pin will never be seen anyways.

Hrm... not sure how this idea would work. Try talking some smack to the Barbarian Warmaster or Melee of any other cabal, then wait for him at the nearest mob to his cabal hall that has a vial of sanctuary. He'll swing by there if you've told him, "At noon tomorrow, I'm attacking your cabal hall." That way, you still get the moment of surprise, and he's probably caught without sanc.

a-g

[L-A]

As much as I never say a word to anyone I'm seriously hunting, you get bonus points for this gem

Try talking some smack to the Barbarian Warmaster or Melee of any other cabal, then wait for him at the nearest mob to his cabal hall that has a vial of sanctuary. He'll swing by there if you've told him, "At noon tomorrow, I'm attacking your cabal hall." That way, you still get the moment of surprise, and he's probably caught without sanc.

a-g

I simply search the realms starting from one side to the other. Check every area. If this doesn't work I assume my prey is moving and strike off the 'out of the way areas' I've already checked and run thorugh the fast and easy ones a few times. You can find 95% of players like this.

The 5% who are left are either:

a) Rogues - if I'm not playing a detect hidden class I generally kill any thief or ninja I find on sight as its the only chance you ever get.

Llama's who have worked out some sad way of getting into high lvl areas that make it VERY hard to track them down and PK them.

Rather than die to some aggro group of mobs they are hiding behind I generally leave it up to the Syndicate to take care of these types. They're paid to risk their characters lives, they can work out how to get to them.

If its a caballed character you can attack the cabal (duh) but they will come fully prepared with the full force of their cabal abilities. Don't complain - you called out the thunder and here comes the lightning.....

L-A

[Anoneemus]

Wow, c locate pile is so grossly sadistic. I never even thought of that one.