Iusedtobesomebody Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Okay, has anyone seen the animated DragonLance movie? I just wasted 4 bucks watching it OnDemand. I want my money back. It was horrible! When I saw it listed I thought, "Kiefer Sutherland as Raistlin Majere?! Lucy Lawless as Goldmoon?! What the hell?!!" But, being a rather large Weiss/Hickman fan, I thought I'd watch anyway. I want the 140 minutes of my life back. Save yourself. Pretend it doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djriacen Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 No! I have been waiting so long to see it.. I kinda figure it would be bad.. Who plays Tanis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anoneemus Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 This movie lost me when you said "Kiefer Sutherland as Raistlin Majere". Seriously, how does that even make any sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killalou Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I personally loved it and saw it free on a online website! How can you not like it? It had action, drama, magic, bravado, dragons, and showed how clerics fought. I didnt care too much for the voice actors but they fit the rp well. Hurray make another! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Did me Lord Soth make an appearance to slay Tanis if his pansy h-elf self was there? I'm not watching that crap......I'm sorry you did.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iusedtobesomebody Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Basically it was the first book of Chronicles. I will not watch if they make the next two. Horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigt Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 I loved the movie. I don't care what you think. It was nostalgic and an accurate representation of events in the book. Except for the dumb pronunciation of spellwords. Also, I saw it for free, so that made it tastier. Rino Romano made it even more worth it. Arcanum, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted June 30, 2008 Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 Sutherland was a bad choice. Edward Norton should have been Raistlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iusedtobesomebody Posted June 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2008 It was nostalgic and an accurate representation of events in the book. So the fact they omitted things and added things that weren't in the book, that was accurate? Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconz Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 I thought the movie was aight... i had no real major issues... then again i did watch it for free. The only voice that got on my nerves was the dwarf cuz it was so nails on chalkboardish... i thought Sutherland did a great job as Raistlin. V.. if you didnt watch the movie.. how could you know Sutherland was a bad choice? Fem-nec... the Lord of the Rings trilogies omitted and added alot of things that werent in the book either... or so im told... since i never read the books.... i did however read draglonace yeaaaars ago. Thats why its called an adaptation of the book... its not the book... only the book is the book... i know... deep huh? I think i would look at the authors reaction to the movie... source: Warcry.net WarCry: You two did not directly write the script, but as the authors of the original works can you talk a bit about how it turned out and why you believe it is a good representation of your work? Tracy Hickman: Adaptation of a novel into a screenplay is a tough act especially when you're dealing with fans of a well-know work. It isn't a question of simply portraying scenes from the novel - as I think most people assume - but rather of capturing the emotional core of the original work and being able to portray that in a new medium. Both Margaret and I were granted an unprecedented level of input on the script but in the end it was hardly needed: George Strayton's magnificent screenplay captured the essence of our vision beautifully realized in a new medium. WarCry: In general, what are the concerns of a writer when their work gets adapted for the big screen. How were those concerns addressed in the creation of this film? Margaret Weis: My concern was that the script remain true to our story and the characters. I think George has done a fantastic job of doing that. I had read other DL scripts that bore no resemblence to anything Tracy and I had written, and I was really pleased and touched by much care Geroge took to remain true to our vision. Tracy Hickman: I think most novel writers do not understand film. I once read that books are all internal in nature: we hear the character's thoughts and view the world and events through their eyes from an internal perspective. Stage plays are all talk: we experience the story mostly through their words and what they tell us but we don't get inside their minds. Film, on the other hand, is all show: it is all about showing you as an observer what is happening and experiencing the character's perspective externally ... we don't actually hear a character's thoughts unless the screenplay resorts to the crutch of the 'voice over.' What writers should be concerned about is if the structural and emotional core of their story is being portrayed. This has nothing to do with how accurate a reproduction of the book is found in the screenplay. George Strayton captured the spirit of our original story and told it in a new way. That's George's genius and I'm grateful both to him for it and to the producers who had the wisdom to bring both Margaret and me into the process. Hickman also gave his own review of the film... source: DragonlanceNexus Tentative First Steps in a Greater Journey Dragonlance is a journey ... and was from the beginning. Dragons of Autumn Twilight was and remains a first in so many ways: it was the first novel together for Margaret and me, it was the first attempt at doing a classic fantasy story for a game setting, and the first book publication for TSR. Looking back on it now, after twenty years of polishing our writing, that first book looks rough and imperfect ... but it was the first step down a road that lead us to great wonders. Flawed as it appears now ... it is deservedly beloved. Since before the publication of Dragons of Autumn Twilight, we have seen Dragonlance in cinematic terms. We wrote the books visualizing them as movies and dreamed that one day, our visions would be realized on film. Now, thanks to Paramount Pictures and Epic Entertainment, that dream has been realized and with it, we take our first step down the new road of Dragonlance films. Recently, Paramount sent to Margaret and me a copy of the film on DVD so that we could preview the final cut. It is quite a thrill watching our characters come to life and hearing the familiar story begin anew. Michael Rosenbaum and Fred Tataciore bring life to the opening scene on their way to meet their friends in Solace. The voice casting in this film is phenomenal. Lucy Lawless gives Goldmoon wonderful depth and even newcomer Caroline Gelbert brings a freshness to Laurana that is breathtaking. The heart of Dragonlance has always been its characters, and the movie shines especially in two of the stories most intriguing personalities, Tasslehoff and Raistlin ... each brought vividly alive by the incredible talents of Jason Marsden and Keiffer Sutherland. Before our family started our little preview, I presented our audience with a little challenge: to find all the scenes where I can be found in the movie - kind of a personal 'Where's Waldo'. As for finding me in the film ... well, you'll just have to see for yourself. Does this film have flaws—absolutely. While the soundtrack is Oscar-worthy and the voice talent is unquestionably perfect, and Will Mineou's direction and art are beautiful, the animation itself is less than I would have hoped it to be. The style is unfortunately inconsistent from shot to shot. Interestingly, the mix of CGI with traditional cell animation worked quite well ... but it was the graphic inconsistencies between cell animation segments that I found problematic. Several sequences used post animation effects over still-motion in lieu of honest animation. My son, Curtis, is a professional After Effects artist as well as a professional magician. As he pointed out, there are only so many times in a piece you can use the same expedient short-cut before the audience begins to see the trick being played. The movie has a major picture sound to which the visuals struggle to keep up. Dragonlance fans will probably also be shocked to hear my second criticism: I believe including the entire first book in the movie was a mistake. Both the screenwriter and I argued against putting all of Dragons of Autumn Twilight in the first film ... believing that the film should portray essentially the first half of the book and finish with 'Solace is burning.' But the 'powers that be' adamantly required that the entire book be portrayed. George Strayton did a masterful job of accomplishing that goal and his script is undeniably brilliant - but I still believe the film's structure suffers from the enforced requirement of including the entire novel. That being said, I am delighted with Dragons of Autumn Twilight and find myself liking it even more with each subsequent viewing. It is the first dragonlance movie and, as such, shares the heritage of tentative first steps ... but in those steps opens up a new road of films before us. 'Lord of the Rings' was, after all, first a Ralph Bakshi cartoon. Dragons of Autumn Twilight is not a destination ... it is the opening of a door and the beginning of a journey. Pop the popcorn, grab your hoopak and come with us down a new road with old friends. Hickman gave the film a 4 out of 5... i think i'd give it a 3. Us nerds are harsh critics and very protective of other peoples work hehe. __________________ Iconz - I couldnt help giggling everytime Riverwind said something b/c it was like "Hey! Thats Green Lantern from Justice League" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigt Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 So the fact they omitted things and added things that weren't in the book, that was accurate? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iusedtobesomebody Posted July 1, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 Iconz: Hickman is either on crack or he has to push the movie no matter what. There was abso-smurfly-NO depth to a single character. Tasslehoff was voiced horribly, Raistlin so-so (at least Kiefer whispered somewhat) and everyone else could have been reading transcripts from Oprah. The animation was crap, soundtrack crap. And yes, LOTR was omitted/added as well, but that doesn't mean I didn't hate that as well. There was no "why"s anywhere. Nothing explained, just a thin premise (Hey! Let's make a movie off of this book!). I was literally embarrassed for making my wife watch, after telling her so much about my favorite series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killalou Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 what I want to know is how you guys figure who SHOULD voice characters that were created from a book? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killalou Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 what I want to know is how you guys figure who SHOULD voice characters that were created from a book? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted July 1, 2008 Report Share Posted July 1, 2008 ****. This was animated, wasn't it? Well, in that case, maybe Sutherland was okay. I want live action, damnit! I want LOTR style, baby! And killalou, we mostly do it based off the characters personality versus the vocals of the actor. We expect them to talk a certain way most of the time, have some smoothness or roughness, but to each their own in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconz Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 I think Hickman was honest in his review... i mean the guy took part in the creation process of the movie... so he does have something at stake... if he didnt like the movie i think hed say so... tons of authors in the past have spoken out when they dont like how an adaptation of their work turned out. I still say that Raistlin's voice was well done... the thing is that once you read a book and you have an idea in your head what your fav chars voice sounds like... it is hard to satisfy that image. Im w/ V though... I want a live action flick... and ive been wanting one since i read my first dragonlance book in middle school. I just hope we dont have to wait 20 years from cartoon to live action like they did w/ the Hobbit. __________________ Iconz - Maybe Im just easy to plea--- oooh... shiny quarter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 If you want animated fantasy, look no further than the original 'Record of Lodoss War'. The english versions are great ... theres 13 episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killalou Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 If you want animated fantasy' date=' look no further than the original 'Record of Lodoss War'. The english versions are great ... theres 13 episodes.[/quote'] Touche'! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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