Everyone said monks were too weak for a long time - now they have some power and everyone wants them put back? Forget it.
Monks have some strong skills - but they still have weaknesses. They are meant to be death on communers, btw. Try fighting a battlemage as a monk though.... Or a giant.... You can win but its hard work on even footing.
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Monks can't sneak in offensive
Wrong!
The biggest reason chii bolt isn't overpowered...yeah all your spells are gone' date=' once. Then they have to enter 7 commands to get that lvl 3 bolt and chii back up. At which point...literally every spell they can take down you can put back up. And if they are using a lvl3 bolt, they aren't attacking with magic...which makes me smile as pretty much any magic vuln race, battlemages, invokers (because I can use an offensive shield instead of mana shield...even though I can't think of a reason why I would use mana shield against a monk), and pretty much everyone who isn't the communer who is now living life without a protective shield.
Wrong!
Wrong!
Really? My bad, they didn't used to be able to.
Wrong!
I hate to be the bearer of bad news...but you are wrong. Lvl 3 bolt takes off the aura on your hands. Read the bmg essay...it states very explicitly in the vs monk part.
A monk's attacks are only magical with a stored level 2 chii bolt, Mudder. You're wrong on that one.
Monks are magical with lvl 2 chii bolt. As for balance, they are definitely have some strong skills now, but that is the way it should be. Monks have a preparedness factor that is HUGE. Not only do they have to be in the correct offensive/defensive empowerment, but in the right one of six stances to be effective. Monks are a classes with some big strengths and big weaknesses, which makes them perfectly fine in my experience.
A monk's attacks are only magical with a stored level 2 chii bolt' date=' Mudder. You're wrong on that one.[/quote']
Your right... For some reason, I was thinking old school magical beads. Total brain fart. Sorry guys/girls. It's been awhile, gimme a break, eh?
no breaks! Santa doesn't give breaks...
I agree 100% with Calron.
I'm beginning to play a monk atm, and I know you if you want to have any chance in pvp you gota be prepared or you guna get rolled all over.
Just like most classes. Being unprepared is the number one reason for a death.
Just like most classes. Being unprepared is the number one reason for a death.
Monks, by design, are just unprepared more often. 
I think their arguments have to do with the specific nature of a monk's preparedness. A monk can be well prepared for ~50% of the pbase at a time; most classes can be prepared against all.
How can most classes be prepared for all the pbase at a certain time..I'd love to see...2 example classes that can be ready 100% of the time.
Good cleric, healer.
However,
A monk can be well** prepared** for ~50% of the pbase at a time; most classes can be prepared against all.
The difference is in the empasis. The average class can't be perfectly prepared against everyone all the time. However, a skilled player can be moderately well-prepared against anyone at all times, with a relatively quick leap to full preparedness. Not always so with the monk, as some preparations for a given group act as a detriment when facing a member of another, with an absolute minimum of two ticks to fully changing your preparations.
good cleric...do I use weapon/shield? that weird hand to hand thing (name is evading me)? two handed? Spell-turning? Steel wall?
I got nothing for healer other than barrier or divine ret?
I would tend to agree they are pretty easy to stay on the cusp of fully prepared. At the same time so are bmgs and invokers. Shield choice for both, sanc for bmg
EDIT: Healers have to time accession too, next time I'm asking for 4 examples...regardless of the topic.
lol what the heck I never said anything about chii bolt, I was talking about air thrash. Ah well these things always stray off.
That's what conversations do...
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all any high status monks needs to kill them is a second attacker, whether incidental or purporseful. moreso than possibly any other class. also try keeping your wimpy to maximum if you're so afraid of triplock. honestly, asking monks to be gimped because you yourself are so vulnerable is weak.
all any high status monks needs to kill them is a second attacker' date=' whether incidental or purporseful. moreso than possibly any other class.[/quote']
Maybe I'm alone, but I found this statement incredibly confusing.
from level 1 to 15, my monks description was:
I look like jet li from that movie fearless... Yep, jet li.
