Aulian Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 True. Assassinate can be nasty though... I still remember Rykar assassinating me a few times when I had 60 hitroll, haste and ac way below -400 and he didnt even have to strangle me! Meh. I have to say its the WORST, and perhaps the most meaningless way to die, but I can see why people would consider it something that was needed in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Dude. Assassinate takes into account the victims AC vs. the Assassins hitroll. I think it was Viri that changed it. I think it was way cooler when people feared a naked ninjas most. ....All this talk of assassinate. Makes me want to roll one! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-guitarist Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 Dude. Assassinate takes into account the victims AC vs. the Assassins hitroll. I think it was Viri that changed it. I think it was way cooler when people feared a naked ninjas most. ....All this talk of assassinate. Makes me want to roll one! :eek: Good idea, for once you'd have a good reason why no one has heard about your character... he's supposed to stay in the shadows. a-g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tassinvegeta Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 True. Assassinate can be nasty though... I still remember Rykar assassinating me a few times when I had 60 hitroll, haste and ac way below -400 and he didnt even have to strangle me! Meh. I have to say its the WORST, and perhaps the most meaningless way to die, but I can see why people would consider it something that was needed in the game. RE: Aulian I've had similar states when it happened but I'm also a giant. However, should I not land blind, with one of those classes that require it, and say you land your charge first... it is already over then. The lag from it locks you up and gives your opponent ample time to both flee, return to the room, and charge you again. I might as well walk away from the keyboard and make myself a sandwich. Secondly, regarding assassinate, from my understanding, it is heavy reliant upon a few contributing factors, partially being studied. Now, we all know it is impossible to always avoid being studied a little bit, but a smart player will take the necessary precautions to help them avoid and lower the possibility of being studied/assassinated. Granted, I have never really played a character that was considered a pk god, however, I have only been assassinated somewhere between 6 and 8 times in my entire time playing here, which I think is pretty damn impressive. If you should not land blind their are others ways to help you get out of it. And even if I did managed the charge theirs nothing to stop you from wording, or walking away when I flee to try to walk in and charge you again. A defeatist attitude like that only makes me seem even more powerful than I actually was. And your second point, assassinate is not heavily reliant on contributing factors, at least not as much as it should be. I've been on both sides of the equation Inmek/Draklor/Renshen and feel I know enough about them to feel they are definitely deserving of the next big change, hah I could've easily assassinated Morchial as Inmek had I not been lazy and enlarged myself first, if I succeeded he told me that he might not have become what he had, how is that fair? Just curious how many successful Ninjas have you played? But as Celerity said I suppose we have to abuse it more. I'm going to roll up the most dominant non-fighting ninja Aabahran has ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 When do you deploy? Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 So basically its discouraged to be the best you can be? That's not what the commercials always say Not at all. But this is a game where you are meant to die. This is a game where even the strong should feel some fear. Ninjas provide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhokril Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 I'm not going to address any of the specific rumors/speculations/"facts" that are being slung around, but I will say this. Assassinate is supposed to be dependent on a number of factors and it should not be "easy" to assassinate someone simply by engineering a single one of these factors. That being said, it is on the list to be looked at (because a number of players have posted about it). As always, you are welcome to post your opinions/suggestions. The staff does listen to what the players are saying; that being said, formulating a composed "problem->solution" post is far more constructive than a "massive massive problem" post. And as an addendum, I do not foresee assassinate being removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mali Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 You have been +++ASSASSINATED+++ You are mortally wounded, and will die soon if not aided. Zhokril nods in your direction and grins evilly. Zhokril says "I do not foresee assassinate being removed." You scream 'AOHUUAJJGHOO' as Zhokril cuts off your head. You have been KILLED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephirus Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Well I would have worded, or moved or done anything if I could have in between the charge/flee, however the point I am attempting to make, is that the lag is just long enough, that I do not have that opportunity. Trust me, during all those times we fought, I would go for the blind lead, you would charge/flee, and charge again before my blindness spell would even go off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tassinvegeta Posted September 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Re: Deykari Deploying in a couple more days Re: Zhokril Thanks for the heads up, it means alot to us players to know things like that. Re: Cephirus I know what mistakes you're getting at. Though other pk'ers have found ways around it, and much like a new qrace/qclass it won't be easily given to you. But just so you know, not having a physical resistance was the most difficult thing for this choice. Nearly every class could do more dmg to me due to it. But most noteworthy were random warriors/rangers that would give me a much harder time than they should of even when I was decked. So even if I had an easier time against you others sure as heck gave me a harder time. Ask Grobbdarg, Grump, Zpenobup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Re: Deykari Deploying in a couple more days Damn. Take care out there. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephirus Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Oh, I am sure they did, and as well they should. In an ideal situation, at least my ideal, A defeats B, B defeats C, and C defeats A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsestomp Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Dude, you knocked out 962 of Achvaahs' hp (unsanced) in the time it took for the charge lag to wear off. I hated seeing you on, because it meant we were gonna fight, and I was gonna lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted September 23, 2008 Report Share Posted September 23, 2008 Good idea, for once you'd have a good reason why no one has heard about your character... he's supposed to stay in the shadows. a-g Wow. How did I miss this?! Good burn... Dick. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tassinvegeta Posted September 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 I never got a chance to send in my version of Lamah's bio. I was speaking to a couple of heralds I believe they are Alhana and Dilorry about sending it in and I was wondering if maybe I could send it to there forum handles instead. If either of you could pm me to further discuss it I'd really appreciate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouselessRogue Posted September 26, 2008 Report Share Posted September 26, 2008 I was bummed out about this annoucement. TV! Ater getting slaughtered on Wellaby's early years at 50. I REALLY I wanted to see YOU as an ally. I was training a Watcher because I thought Lamah was so awesome. Then to find out... it's you! Be careful over there. Come back safe my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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