Pali Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Except Illithids don't have hands. They have tentacles. Hence' date=' they can't wield weapons.[/quote'] Actually, I tried to run with that on Vryxtyx, but was forced to change my description so that he DID have hands by an IMM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Actually' date=' I tried to run with that on Vryxtyx, but was forced to change my description so that he DID have hands by an IMM.[/quote'] Not to offend anyone or come off in a "high and mighty" fashion. But IMMs are not immune to mistake. I have seen IMMs (Don't remember who, but I just remember it happened) give into the false knowledge that Fire Giants are made of fire. Lol. Though I am glad to hear an Imm made you change things in a desc at all. Lately I have seen an incredibly relaxed posture of our current administration about descriptions. As opposed to the desc nazi's of 1.0 & 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali_gmud Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 I always thought fire giants were like the infernals from warcraft 3.... why is everythingwarcraft with me! I remember writing out a description for a storm giant, and I basically described my character as a walking gem mine, bound together by a living water current, which I basically got from heroes 2 might and magic, the water elementals. Anume pops in after I requested for my description to get approved, she goes over my description and pretty much said, "wtf, u fail" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Giants. Fire. Stone. Storm. Those names describe things like, the places they live (Stone, Fire) or their attitude/temperment (Storm). The reason for the storm giant name is clearly stated in the help file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted October 12, 2008 Implementor Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 As to the Ogres: Physical Features: Large, broad and thickly muscled ogres are anything but gracile. Their general body-shape is humanoid, though they are far taller than humans. Ogres are in several ways superior to the giants they are sometimes mistaken for. Having a similar frame, they possess an incredible metabolism granting them great strength and speed. They heal at an unheard of rate while possessing a constitution and health that far surpasses any other race. This vitality comes at a cost, as they are quite vulnerable to magic in all its forms. While they are unwise and foolish at best, they posses surprising intelligence. Their skin color varies from a deep dark brown to a greenish grey, depending on the ogre’s origin. The race as a whole suffers from a speech impediment caused by protruding incisors or tusks. Their eyes often shadowed by heavy bone ridges and their features heavy-boned and square ogres are only ever found attractive by other ogres. Most ogres care little about hygiene and let their thick hair grow wild, cut only by whatever comes to hand when it starts getting in the way. Their females tend to be only slightly less broad and tall and often are as fond of physical combat as their male counterparts. As to Illithids: IMO they shouldn't have hands, just tentacles, but I'd be willing to discuss this until the Illithid physycal feature help is out Giants: Mudder is correct here. The things made out of the elements are some kind of golem. When I see some desc like this I usually don't comment like Ali said but rather tell people to send in a restring application. We had a couple fire elementals, stone golems, etc. already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 And here I was hoping you posted a MUD up post in the wrong thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icor Posted October 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 That's what Eshaine PMed me before about Ogres. If they have incredible metabolism and speed, then they're not Shrek. Shrek is just a cliche. Fat, thin... these are description-specific things, which is why I'm glad Eshaine gave me some basic Ogre facts to work with as opposed to crazy detail. I can't draw every single Ogre you'll ever see, but I can definitely construct a sort of reference skeleton. With that being said, I will only be changing the female a little bit before coloring it. I can try a fat version with the male drawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted October 12, 2008 Implementor Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 I picture ogres a lot more massive than your scrawny draft as well There should be a huge difference to fine boned races as elves, drows. (Don't get me wrong, I really do appreciate you doing all this work!!) Broad, tall, massive, heavy boned (bone ridge shadowing their eyes), a bit like Shrek but not as round and cuddly, more ugly, more muskular perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icor Posted October 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 ... Oh. Good metabolism and fat seem to contradict slightly, but I'll see what I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 ... Oh. Good metabolism and fat seem to contradict slightly Have you ever fed an ogre? Even with that metabolism, they can't burn all those calories. Besides, she said more muscular less fat than shrek. The fangs too. Not sure if others agree, but I think they should look more like tusks, and grow upward from the lower jaw. What does everyone else think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouselessRogue Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I concur on the tusks. Upward from the bottom. There is a fantasy author named Richard Knaak that wrote a serious of books about Minotaurs and Ogres. He does a pretty awesome job of describing both races physically and socially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I picture one of these guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephirus Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I would be willing to debate the argument of Illithid's having either hands/ or no hands. Yes, a squid like creature very easily could not have hands and simply use tentacles for grasping and such in combination with their innate psychic abilities could most assuredly not need to have hands to accomplish the menial tasks that would require the manipulation hands would garner. However, that being said, they are "human" and I do mean that very loosely, like and therefore do have human-type traits, which could include the "D&D standard" look of having hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 What do you mean they are "human" do you mean humanoid? I would say no. I say illithids, by RP and by nature are the only race of FL that is on its own entirely. That being said, I am not a D&D nerd. I have never played D&D. I have never read a fantasy novel, besides Harry Potter, and I don't know anything about the subculture of this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cephirus Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I do not mean humanoid, as they are an alien race, if anything they would be an Aberration. What I mean is that we generally apply either human or animal characteristics to the fantasy races we create. In this type of situation, one could argue either side, and in truth, there is no real right answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 I picture one of these guys That is a perfect example actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 As to Illithids: IMO they shouldn't have hands' date=' just tentacles, but I'd be willing to discuss this until the Illithid physycal feature help is out [/quote'] Great... all I got when I mentioned that previous Illithids of mine with tentacles instead of arms were found to be fine by other IMMs was basically "I am not other IMMs, change it or figure out a restring."... and for a char meant to be on a specific mission for the Hive, the latter wasn't quite doable. Why couldn't you have been my desc checker, Eshaine?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zrothum Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 desc nazis.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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