A slight break

[KRins]

Uh... paladin sees evil person. Paladin kills evil person on sight, because said paladin is a Purity follower. How is this stupid?

Yes, it does happen, and yes, it can be perfectly within someone's RP. I'm sorry that not all my chars are as chatty as yours, but that's just the way they are. This is not some everybody-hugs-and-sits-down-for-tea-after-a-fight world... this is a violent, bloody, dangerous place where someone can kill you because they want your shoes.

I wasn't aware you were the authority when it comes to RP. Just because it is easy to kill someone without a word before or after doesn't mean it in any way, shape, or form benefits the game. Kill someone, full loot them, sac everything... I honestly don't care. Don't piss on someone by refusing to RP with them. Plain disrespectful and extremely self-centered and childish. Take the few seconds it takes to have a tiny chat even... Go play WoW if you want hack/slash, skill spam. Stop trying to advocate the lack of RP that is obvious in numerous characters. Interesting this comes from you because Ilendriel actually RPed with opposite aligns as I remember.

[Anume]

I'll be handing out some nice forum vacations unless some of you change your tone.

RP is diverse. Not everyone has to rp like YOU would want them to to have nice rp.

I'll give this thread one last chance before I nuke it for good.

[Pali]

Interesting this comes from you because Ilendriel actually RPed with opposite aligns as I remember.

Let me correct you... Ilendriel would TALK with opposite aligns. He did that because it was part of his character... he was not a Purity follower or Knight, he was a follower of the One and a guardian. His job was to protect Shasarazade, not to root out and destroy evil, so against very few evils was he aggressive (drow, undead, and demons being the exceptions). However, that I talked with evils was not me RPing, it was PART of my RP. I also spent dozens of hours playing Ilendriel and doing absolutely nothing but sitting at the Shasarazade city gates on my own, and I consider every one of those hours to have been me RPing. RPing is not just talking to people... RPing is acting the character in everything the character does.

As a counter-example, my Hive Illithids (which most seem to think were well RPed chars also) wouldn't ever initiate conversation with someone they killed. Why? Because they didn't care to. They viewed non-Illithids as insects... unworthy of consideration except as tools or threats. Killing people may have been a little more difficult to them than stepping on an ant is for you, but they didn't care any more about their targets than most do the ant. I would not start conversations with my kills because it would have been a breach of character for me to do so. Now, if my kill initiated the conversation, I'd often be willing to give a sentence or two... but rarely more unless they seemed interesting and worthy of further examination.

[Twinblades713]

[Guest emp_newb]

Hey, stop this stuff. This thread was not intended to start a fight between anyone. I just wanted to toss out that RP is a very important factor. You do not have to throw your rp down peoples throats. But I gave everyone involved with what happened a chance to RP, and the most I got was a begone. So please stop this rediculous argument, it serves no real purpose other than to make an otherwise non-targeting thread into a flame fest.

[Anume]

Two examples of (IMO) perfectly fine goody rp, both elf paladins.

Pali 1:

follower of Church/Life

rp: This guy wants to make the world a better place, his goal is to save souls, if he manages only to convert one evil to the path of righteousness his life will be worthy in his gods eyes

Pali 1 will probably almost never attack any evil without talking to them first, he tries to convert them, to save their soul, he will try to convince, to teach, violence will be his last means, IF he is forced to kill he will try to show his vanquished opponent even more how his path is the only right and try to convince them

exception: possibly everything he does not think CAN be saved (lich, undead, vampire, demon). He'd probably try to extinguish these without ever talking to them. The less time these evil things spend in the lands, the less time they have to pervert others.

Pali 1 might kill one of above mentioned qclasses without ever talking to them.

I would still call his rp perfectly fine. He might give them a righteous sermon expressing just how disgusting he thinks these guys are. Nothing much more would fit into his rp.

Pali 2:

Follower of Purity

A much more extreme view. Throw in Avatar and you have THE evil hunter. It could make perfect sense for this guy not ever to talk to any evil. His goal is not to convert anyone. He wants to tear out evil with its roots. If this guy rps at all with an evil, then probably after he has killed him. This does not mean Pali 2 does not rp, he will probably rp a lot with goodys and neutrals (last might be savable in his view by converting them to good), if he rps with an evil before attacking them it will probably along the lines of "run as long as you can, I am coming to extinguish your tainted existence". This guy will never be "nice" to any evil.

In the extreme case he'd keep killing any evil in his range until they log off. As we don't have the player numbers we used to, where above was almost always the case, he will probably just kill them once and then again when they have pinned, but this is ooc motivated (he wants to have someone to fight that gives him a good fight at 50) and he will have to find ic reasons to make this NOT a breach of rp. This might go so far as "intentionally" not finding the non-pinned evil or even logging off if it is cabal wf (I've done this before when someone kept coming back )

[Twinblades713]

The difference I want to make, as both of those points, Eshaine, are very legit. I had a character that was the exact opposite of the purity paladin you just depicted. If someone was alive, this char would kill them for that reason. If they were good, all the better. Extinguishing anything that offered hope for light, or dampened the power of destruction. I found I made quite a name for myself. My char did not care what anyone had to say, and often killed people without a word beforehand, only chuckling after. There was nothing that would stop me from killing people, if I couldn't find a reason, I'd find one (The pronoun "I" being my char) This rp got me very far, and made me feel very real. BUT. Despite ALL of this, as I had no reason to rp with anyone, I rped quite alot. And it was just that useless, pointless banter, but I think it's an ooc courtesy to everyone else. I killed a person, and he asked me, "Why did you kill me? You didn't even need anything and I am not even at my peak." And I replied, because you were there, and because you were alive. The near perfect rp I can think of of a scourge player. (Not to say there aren't other excellent ways to play it)

Bottom line, as long as stuff doesn't become downright ooc rude, like... "you suck, you cheated, I'm going to tell an imm" any kind of rp (I want you to be afraid of me, you will wake up from nightmares of me, I will kill you as often as is possible, until your god grants you no more life) This stuff puts quality into a rather bristly style rp, for both goods and evils. A dark Knight that just wants to pad his malform can still offer these things, as can an avatar who wants to do avatarry things.

Edit: I just want to add that, in my opinion, the lack of rp because your rp doesn't dictate that you need to interact with others, seems like a minimalist view of the game. You still have the capability to roleplay with that poor sap you just annihilated, while still completely adhering to your chars rp. Unless you're rp is that you're mute and could talk to nobody.... that would be good reason for me.

[Pali]

This does not mean Pali 2 does not rp

That was the only point I was trying to make.

Meanwhile, I shall resist the urge to make jokes about how I'm not those two guys.

[Twinblades713]

Meanwhile, I shall resist the urge to make jokes about how I'm not those two guys.

Of course not. They're your clones.

[Andre]

and there esh lays it on the table perfect example well done!

[Pali]

Of course not. They're your clones.

My army continues to grow... mwahahahahaha!