I know this topic has been beat like a dead horse, but I think that blademasters have a bit...much. Five attacks with one or two weapons, snakespeed/predict/spellkill, counter/twin counter, anatomy expertises and masteries?
The whole deal just seems to be stacked. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like blademaster is able to be prepared to fight any class, at any time. Now, I've played a few blademasters into the high 40s(I hate xp penalties), and I've fought a few others on the way, and I always seem to get beaten down, no matter what I'm playing, or the race of the other.
Edit: Not to mention the plethora of mals they can hit even a non-expertise/mastery race, with onslaught that has a practically no-fail disarm, and a massive damage output with backpin/pinwheel.
It's people like you that make me want to become a serial killer.
And if I ever make good on that threat, know that you're first on my list.
For the meantime...
Cyberspace STABBING
Agreed. Very agreed. Don't forget the crits. Blms are warriors and shamans, att the same time. They could take some gimping. Or at least give them a nemesis, something that will have the upper hand to them, like warriors to zerks. Then they would be fine as they are. But right now they are too strong to be good vs anything and everything.
This game has a sort of 'rock/paper/scissors' sort of deal to it, maybe one class can't fight them, but others can. But with blademasters, it's like rock/paper/scissors/dynamite(blms). They've got a trump card on every single class.
edit:Re: Evangelion Please explain to me where blademasters do not excel.
edit2:Also, let's not forget the fact that they can use acupuncture a lot more often than herb/healing(monk)/field dressing/etc. That and on fail or success, you aren't taking too hard a blow.
Reasons that blademasters are not overpowered:
Now that caltraps doesn't reduce move regeneration, and the duration has been shortened, they have no way to stop opponents from escaping other than flat out laglock (which can only be done versus select races, or stupid players).
The chances of a blademaster flatly outmeleeing an equally equipped warrior/ranger are slim to none, simply because of the need to choose a more offensive or defensive set of weaponry/stances.
A blademaster's ability to land multiple maledictions in a time effective way is worse than any other maledictive class (DKs, Shamans, etc). Between AC causing critical strikes to miss, shortened spell durations with BLM tone downs, and not to mention the fact that most mals can only be used, again, on select races, they are not as pimp as people believe.
Finally, the only class that a blademaster will beat 95% of the time is a DK. If you're getting beat by blademasters, it is because of one of three things:
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You're under equipped. To which I say, l2equip n00b
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They're over equipped. To which I say, l2bounty n00b
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You suck at PK. To which I say, l2meditationofblades n00b
By the way, with my ogre warrior I never once lost to a BLM. Warriors, equipped and played correctly, ARE the banes of blademasters. Battlemages should also do very well, as should rangers.
Okay, let's see.
If your supposed trump card is that you have anatomy expertise/mastery in someone's race, then that's dandy - it's your ****ing class's specialty. Don't like it? Delete your current class, roll up a new one of a race you know that BLM isn't expert/master in, and hope they don't reroll as well.
If Blademasters are "dynamite", then why don't more of them rock the pbase? Because they meet up with their bane, get killed and full looted and delete.
I am still waiting to hear from someone who was the last BLM to rock the pbase, prior to Taeim. And Dagizon doesn't count, because he didn't last long enough to rock a potato.
Edit: And you can sit there and say acupuncture isn't that bad when it fails all you want. But you try rolling with a low-dex blm (dwarf/duergar) with that -2 dex, and -hit/dam, and we'll see how you feel about it. Not to mention herb heals more, can be reused until it succeeds every time, and is a skill that accompanies a half rogue class.
You guys have no idea what your talking about, fight any decent warrior with a certain mastery and see how well you do as a blademaster. I am sick of hearing about this topic already. By no means are blademasters super powerfull.
P.S. Evangelion is right.
Now we all know what class Evangelion is playing....
L-A
Now we all know what class Evangelion is playing....
L-A
Gee, L-A, you caught me.
I, like EyeSeeU, have played a number of blademasters (something that most of the people who COMPLAIN about them can't boast), and know that they have weaknesses and are not the end-all of this game. Just because you die to a class, doesn't make it overpowered. It means you suck.
Harden up, princess.
Caltraps: You still take damage every time you move, allowing them to track you, while you take damage.
VS melees: halfling/slith/feral/drow/elf/avian in shadowdancer? The stance is made to increase your strength, yet it adds to ac...hmmm. Not to mention, predict bash/trip/dirt.
Mals: I don't think any melee class should be able to mal me up, DKs are a hybrid, and have to choose whether to use mals or affl spells.
Thus proving that you don't know what you're talking about.
Caltraps and wounding are two completely different things, and two completely different critical strikes.
Oh there you go, thanks Bali.
I haven't died in this game in months...
And also, who's the last character period to rock the pbase, other than Marty?
Thats twice in a row I have to agree with you
Evangelion ... Don't make this a habbit...
I haven't died in this game in months...
And also, who's the last character period to rock the pbase, other than Marty?
Playing healers doesn't prove you have the capacity to PK, Jar-Jar.
Wow, you really need to cool off. Instead of going with personal attacks, try attacking my argument.
The caltraps bit was because it seemed to run hand in hand when I was fighting Maethorir earlier this evening, when I checked my affects they it was both, but maybe I missed it during combat.
I'm attacking you personally, because it's you that needs to be toned up, not blademasters toned down.
If you want to be able to beat blademasters, play several to pinn, all of which should be different races (at least one low dex and one high dex). Different aligns, different cabals. You'll learn very quickly what their weaknesses are. But hey, if you want to continue to get your *** handed to you, I'll be happy to continue rolling up halfling blademaster Warmasters and showing you the error of your ways.
But you OBVIOUSLY haven't ever played one to pinn, or if you did, you didn't stick with it very long OR fully train it. Do that, before you complain.
Your argument has been made void. Because what you said just ins't truth. (corpsestomp)