Twinblades713 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Serinkane, give me your keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconz Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Killalou.. inscribed's got nothin against the Kennedys.. thats just his douchey e-sense of humor... seriously... scroll thru his posts. Serinkane, love how you let everyone know you were "drunk" before you posted your belligerantly ignorant incoherant rant... so later on you can conveniently say "oh man.. i was wasted"... Instead of pulling general statements out of our aholes... lets actually look on the numbers on this whole "He only won cuz he's black" thing... Wiki says the US population is roughly 299 million people usin figures from 2006... its around 304 million now i think. 74% of that is white, or about 224million....about 13.4% is black, or about 44.3 million. Now, lets say out of that percentage, 10% is prejudiced and voted only due to race.... 22.4 million versus 4.4 million??? And youd have to imagine those numbers are even lower considering not everyone in America can vote... only about 120 million people or so CAN actually vote (felons, illegal immigrants, legal but non-citizen immigrants (like myself) cant vote). Statistically speakin... there is a larger number of white people who would have voted for John Mac cuz he is white then there would be for people who voted for Barry O cuz hes black... thats just pure numbers. I'll use fox's reports that say Obama won 65.4 million votes so people wont accuse me of using liberal sources (im like Chris Rock...i dont even consider myself liberal or conservative...).... McCain won 57.4 million votes... youre tellin me that the approx 8 million more votes that O won was ONLY b/c he was black? Thats laughably dumb and narrow-minded... Lets look at some exit poll data 17,836 people polled 13% were black so about 2318 people about 2202 voted for Barry O 74% White so about 13,198 Out of that number 7259 voted Mccain 7.2k vs 2.2k out of a sample??? So I say bull-ish on that one... its an ignorant way to try and look away from the real problem... the republican party is slowly but surely losing touch w/ almost every demographic except people over 63... people who are going to die soon.... so the party shrinks and shrinks. THATS the lesson that they should learn from this election... not that Barrack was a "magical negro" or he's "The One" or he's "A Messiah"... no... he just had appeal to a significantly large portion of the American people. He advertised hard... used text messaging... the web... even F'N VIDEOGAMES... and spoke in a way that energized people about their country. BHO didnt win cuz of the Black votes... McCain lost b/c of (this is a parody.. not a real call... despite the title), and his utter incompetence to woo the votes of the young ( ? Really Mac? Thats the best you could do? Really? Do you even KNOW what Gasolina is about????). Like i said... i dont care that he was black... i came from a country where i was used to black presidents... but for the people in this country who have never seen it... yeah its a big deal to them. Oh and on the thing of welfare... once again MORE WHITE PEOPLE ARE ON WELFARE THAN BLACK PEOPLE (research it). On the positive side... according to Cracked.com... White People Can Be Cool Now! http://www.cracked.com/blog/white-people-can-finally-be-cool-again/ (god i love Cracked...) __________________ Iconz - Wow... I almost wrote God I love Crack... O_O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Well put Iconz. Took the words right out of my mouth. I think we will get along just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serinkane Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 What I am saying, is that people need to stop QQing over race and get with the program. We have way more pressing affairs then black and white. Im so sick of hearing Blacks this and Whites that. Look at your polls, 95% blacks that actually voted, voted for him, almost half/half white. The same thing goes for the ignorant red neck whites that simply voted because of race. Personally, I think Obama will, hopefully, change some **** for the better. The main issues I have with him are what I posted above. It beats the old money *** clowns that are only in it for personal reasons. Obama's hurdle will be to get past the majority of congress and the higher ups that have been put into place by the "good ole boy" system. Just like most everything else in this world, its usually not about how much you know, but who you know. On a more personal note, If you can't handle discussion of politics without being offended and trying to personally attack someone with a PMS post, then stay away from politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 If you can't handle drinking and not making an *** of yourself, then stay away from Jack Daniels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSeeU Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I will end it on this, I voted for Obama because I felt he was the best choice to lead our country from the sh**hole of a mess Bush's admin got us into. Race to me is never relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I would also like to point out that ammo is relatively cheap per bullet no matter what. How many bullets does a redneck need to "protect" his home? The less bullets/guns around the better. Regardless if they are carried by a criminal or redneck. I'd rather neither, but hey, i'll take either one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconz Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 AAs in the US have voted democrat in large numbers in most of the recent past elections just look here... The avg has always been high 80s I got no problem w/ discussin politics ... you know.. talking about different viewpoints... talking about policy... what i had a problem w/ was blanket statements like: A majority of his votes came from black citizens that had NO idea what is views on politics or what his campaign was about. They merely voted because HE WAS BLACK. The problem will be here in about 6 months, when all the faithful blacks who voted for their mesiah get pissed when their wellfare checks arent mailed, and they still have to pay bills and work just like every other american citizen. Basicly...you just said "the majority of black people" are ignorant of politics ... lazy... and are on welfare... heh... all were missing are penis jokes, sports, crime, and chicken jokes and id think you were on Trent Lott's payroll ( ). If you dont think any of that was the tiniest bit... ohh... i dunno... offensive... exaggerated... lacking thought (congrats on the mysoginy w/ the PMS thing too *thumbs up*)...well then *shrug* s'all good... *points to what Bali said* Edit: How the hell did no one laugh yet at A-Gs pun????? Dont worry man... i appreciate your cleverness lol __________________ Iconz - So a black basketball playing well hung chicken with a stolen watch walked into a bar..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I see everyone as equal. Equally inferior to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serinkane Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 The less bullets/guns around the better. Regardless if they are carried by a criminal or redneck. I'd rather neither, but hey, i'll take either one. The people you dont want to have guns/bullets dont exactly goto Walmart and buy them. They get them off the street illegally. People like me, a policemen, use bullets for practice at the range. My glock .45 rounds, costs me about $90 a range run. That run usually only lasts about 1-2 hours depending on fire rate. You dont think cops actually make real money huh? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSeeU Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 In all reality nobody should have guns. As for your cheaper bullets look online great deals there. I don't care if your a cop or not because most cops are A$$hats anyways. How was that for stereotypical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-guitarist Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 My post of awesome *slow clap* On a more personal note' date=' If you can't handle discussion of politics without being offended and trying to personally attack someone with a PMS post, then stay away from politics.[/quote'] Shut up and realize that 90% of what you're saying is horse****, man. Do you ever think for yourself or just cntrl+c cntrl+v what you hear on some website? 90% of the god damn US is like that, just listen to someone else, and then go "Aw hell, paw, he dun be right, ya'uk! We ain't gotta let dat dar negro get inta' offace! Only reason he be thar is cause he's got them magic mellons in his skin!" ... ****. Does it matter if the only reason he was voted in was because of his skin colour? Well, not to me. And I honestly don't see that as to why he's there. Did I vote for him? Nope. I voted for the King of the Elephants. But, man, seriously... you're coming across as the largest dick in the world. I'd rather read Warpnow's posts than yours.... further, thanks to WC I have learned how to block certain people. You've earned spot number two. On a side note, I agree that the gun ideas this guy has are plum stupid. Works in the city, maybe, but not out in the country. Some people actually, ya' know, are able to not starve because of their guns where I live. a-g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Twendrist Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I think too much control on guns will lead to problems, but I think fully automatic weapons with armor piercing rounds shouldn't be floating around too easily lol. And yeah, people who buy guns for the bad reasons don't buy them from gun stores because of serial numbers and how easily they are traced. Serinkane: I feel ya. I shoot at IDPA matches and it can get expensive. My brother in law makes his own rounds which makes it a bit cheaper I hear. A little innovation (he made upgrades to make the machines more efficient) it can go pretty quick I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I think too much control on guns will lead to problems... Explain this because it makes absolutely 0 sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelion Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Only reason he be thar is cause he's got them magic mellons in his skin!" Obama is a Jedi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Questioner Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I am pretty sure that at least 90% of the information on the internet is false, opinionated crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 I am pretty sure that at least 90% of the information on the internet is false' date=' opinionated crap.[/quote'] And only 50% of what you hear is. To add to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare_from_hell Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 You have to know where to look for "un-opinionated crap" on the net. Factcheck.org is a great resource if you want to find unbiased information. I used this as one of many resources while deciding upon my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 The problem isn't guns. The problem is a lack of education and economic inequalities. The problem is anti-drug laws that create a multi-billion dollar black market. Guns are wonderful tools for killing, no doubt, but it is people that pull the trigger, and we need to remove the reasons they have for doing so, else they'll just find another way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Twendrist Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 There are legit reasons to own guns, obviously. Too much control= too hard to get for the good guys. Yes, the good guys, because the harsher the laws on legit guns, the easier it will be to get guns on the black market due to the money that can be made. Therefore, the people who are getting them for protection, hunting, sports ect are getting shafted, but people who are selling them and buying them illegaly are going to make huge profits. And, according to the Constitution if a Gov. becomes a tyranny its our job to take to the streets, and I'd personally feel better with one (though, that isn't the major point here ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 There are legit reasons to own guns, obviously. Too much control= too hard to get for the good guys. Yes, the good guys, because the harsher the laws on legit guns, the easier it will be to get guns on the black market due to the money that can be made. Therefore, the people who are getting them for protection, hunting, sports ect are getting shafted, but people who are selling them and buying them illegaly are going to make huge profits. And, according to the Constitution if a Gov. becomes a tyranny its our job to take to the streets, and I'd personally feel better with one (though, that isn't the major point here ). Too hard for good guys to get? Cops can easily get guns. Anyone else? They're not "good guys" they are people with guns. If they consider themselves "good guys" it is quite possible they are even MORE dangerous because of that. Easier on the black market? You just said they will cost more. Thus it will be easier for criminals with lots of money which is less than the majority that have them now. Guns for protection? I call Bull****. If you want protection buy mace. Buy a tazer. They are both extremely effective and much less deadly. Why not buy missiles for protection too? They're overkill. Yeah. If our Government becomes a Tyranny, good luck rebelling. You'll be using your crappy semi-automatics against tanks. That might have been effective back in the day... BEFORE the U.S. had an organized and permanent military. Yes. That was written before we had that and it was thought that we never would. (The founding fathers were against the establishment of a permanent military. How many conservatives quote the founding fathers on that?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Too hard for good guys to get? Cops can easily get guns. Anyone else? They're not "good guys" they are people with guns. If they consider themselves "good guys" it is quite possible they are even MORE dangerous because of that. I disagree about as much one can. People will think twice about sticking up a store or something when people can defend themselves. Instead of waltzing away with you ph4t l3wt you're looking at 5 guns owned by people who are willing to defend themselves and their neighbors. Guns for protection? I call Bull****. If you want protection buy mace. Buy a tazer. They are both extremely effective and much less deadly. Why not buy missiles for protection too? They're overkill. Works if your assailant doesn't have a gun. (Which gun control simply won't solve, ever.) Yeah. If our Government becomes a Tyranny, good luck rebelling. You'll be using your crappy semi-automatics against tanks. That might have been effective back in the day... BEFORE the U.S. had an organized and permanent military. Yes. That was written before we had that and it was thought that we never would. (The founding fathers were against the establishment of a permanent military. How many conservatives quote the founding fathers on that?) Our military is full of citizens who have volunteered to participate... Who's going to be in the tanks if the republic rebels? I'm think you might be getting at the point that we shouldn't have a permanent military, and I'm sure the radicals in the middle east would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorCleric Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Obama is a Jedi? Dark Jedi, duh. And I think his Sith name is Darth Socialist WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-guitarist Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Yeah. If our Government becomes a Tyranny, good luck rebelling. You'll be using your crappy semi-automatics against tanks. That might have been effective back in the day... BEFORE the U.S. had an organized and permanent military. Yes. That was written before we had that and it was thought that we never would. (The founding fathers were against the establishment of a permanent military. How many conservatives quote the founding fathers on that?) Okay... I'm gonna tell you to think about that again. You know I respect you, Mudder. If, and it won't happen, but if the Government goes Palpatine on us.. the battlegrounds are not going to be the country side.. it's gonna be cities. Tanks won't really do well in a lot of cities. Further, the easy to take out the ability for the heavy equipment to easily travel across the county isn't too bad. Ike (I believe) set up the interstates so that the military could quickly move should there be an invasion. Hell, NY state is a great example of this, what with the Canal on the west side and the Mohawk on the east side. Also, the Adirondacks... take out key roads/Bridges and it's not a big problem to remove tanks for the most part. Look at the rest of Appalachia? Or the Rockies? Insurgency is a big problem in Iraq, I guess, I only hear the news and haven't experienced it. But, these guys have no tanks and just semi-automatic and fully automatic weapons along with some other things. Which would be easy enough to get here regardless of the legality of any laws. Also... WC has the info somewhere, but it's above 90%... most gun crimes are done with guns bought illegally anyways, so what good are laws if the guns aren't bought on the level to begin with? How about enforcing what we've got before passing more? But, take it back to the US, where there are larger landmass, larger places to hide, and it's easier to hide amongst your enemy. If I were a "rebel" fighting against the army, I would be hard to spot. I'm not brown, and I sure as hell wouldn't wave my "I hate the Tyranny" flag. I also don't pray 5 times a day. With that, I would have an easier time approaching a soldier and then taking care of issues then, and have an easier time getting away than an Iraq insurgent would in the sandbox. Also, we all speak the same language here. Which helps and hurts both side. But, it greatly helps the rebellious side. But, on top of that... I've never met anyone that had a Semi Automatic weapon that actually used it... but still, with a bolt action rifle, I've seen my friends (just common farm kids) lay out a series of targets like they were nothing. Now, would they be considered "kill" shots? I don't think so, I wouldn't know- they weren't human shaped targets. But the fact is they were hitting them, and hitting them fast. Add in that a bunch of US country dwellers already have a small arsenal. (How many of your friends out in the sticks have a collection that includes Grandpa's service rifles? A BAR or other such? It's not unheard of here, and I know of two personally) Now think of how many people will stock up on ammo should a law be put into effect? It's already happened here (NY state), when the new year came last year many, many rifles were bought, alogn with ammo, because they would no longer be available. The big sellers at the local gun store were SKS's and Mosin-Nagants (7.62 x .39/.54r size guns- surplus obviously, and Bolt action/Semi Auto.) The basic thing is the price you pay to guarantee that you'll have the means to protect yourself you need is having some jackass occasionally use the tool in the wrong. I'd rather have 2 or 3 people die to a semi automatic rifle with man-killing rounds a year than have a chance of having myself be told what I can and can't do. More people are killed with Hammers and screwdrivers than Assault Rifles around here each year... I'd imagine the trend is the same all around the US. Why not ban hammers? (We need the screwdrivers for how bad we're gonna get screwed by the government anyways.) The flip side? I don't think anyone needs a weapon of the sizes I've shot. I don't own a gun myself, but I'd like a shotgun for personal home defense. Not to kill someone, not to shoot at someone, but to be there should a show of force be needed. If some dumb kid hopped up on speed breaks into my house, he might think differently about hurting or taking something if he hears a particularly nasty loading of a round and sees something pointed at him. I would feel like absolute **** and never forgive myself if I ever killed someone, whether they had it coming or not. Anyone who says, "I have an Ak-47" or "SKS" or any large caliber gun for "home protection" is a damn idiot. That gun is not safe for shooting in doors or in any place where there are more houses/apartments near. A round from those guns will shoot through anyone not wearing armor and a few walls before stopping. But, a small sized gun with enough of a noise to make someone **** a brick and cry for mommy? I'm fine with that. ...But, again... put that big one under your bed, in a gun-safe (ideally), or in a tool cabinet in case something big happens. What about an Earthquake? Massive floods? Power outages? Blizzard? Asteroid Impact? Oprah Sightings? Stock Market Crash? Pandemic? You'll need something slightly beefier to protect yourself should panic set in and rage the country, state, or region. A starving man who is hopped up on meth isn't gonna run away from a .22 or bird shot. But, that's about all I gots to say about that. a-g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iusedtobesomebody Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 No one needs armor piercing bullets to hunt deer. But those deer are shifty... can't be too sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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