HBwillie Posted March 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2009 Machida gets the TKO. Evans gets the KO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npc_death Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Chuck or Shogun? I really hope Shogun is telling the truth about getting healthy and refocusing his training. I want to see him with a full tank of gas tonight, ready to dominate. If he can crush Chuck and make it look easy, he'll be ready to start legitimately start climbing the LHW ladder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBwillie Posted April 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Shogun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouselessRogue Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 A healthy in shape Shogun will destroy Chuck Liddell. If he comes in flabby and with no cardio he will get owned. Did anyone see John Jones fight Stefan Bonner? That kid is young and I see great things coming from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBwillie Posted April 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 No kidding, I love throws. Karo Parisyan, ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Poor Liddell. May he rest in peace. On another note, Silva was boring as hell, and Laites was awful. I like both fighters, but that fight was just terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npc_death Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Yeah, the main event was not my favorite. I wonder what's wrong with Silva. Was it a simple case of not wanting to get beaten, hence the lack of aggression? I wonder if it's a bit more complex. Think of Sacha Baron Cohen's character in Talladega Nights. He was incredibly good and simply sought a worthy challenger. Silva may be in the same frame of mind. He did what it took to eliminate most of Leites's threat: destroy the legs. Maybe he wanted to see what Leites could do from there, possibly why he toyed with and taunted him in the later rounds. I don't know, but I want to see someone legitimately challenge Silva, forcing him to be dangerous again. As for the Shogun-Liddell fight...Man, it was good to see Rua get a great win. I want to him he deadly again, and I would love to see him destroy Evans. (Only after Evans loses the belt to Machida, of course.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HBwillie Posted April 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Hell yes. We're on the same page about everything, npc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconz Posted April 19, 2009 Report Share Posted April 19, 2009 Well... i thought UFC 97 was interesting.. before the Liddel Rua fight i remember saying "man... Chuckies been getting knocked out a lot recently... if he gets ko'd tonight that might be it for him" and sure enough he did. As to the Silva fight.. i dunno.. it seems like he had a gameplan. He wanted to keep it standing and pick his shots.. Leites didnt want anything of Spider's stand-up so he avoided and tried to pull guard/lure him to the ground. I think it was technical in that sense... but Silva also likes to clown around. We been so spoiled by Silva that when he doesnt come out there and destroy people we think somethings wrong... naw man.. hes just being a smart fighter. He goes out there and gets KTFO or subbed hes only hurting himself and his career. That bein said tho... i want to see a Silva vs GSP superfight... or if Okami wins... a Silva vs Okami rematch. Give the man a more meaningful fight... thats when he is at his greatest.. in meaningful fights (see Franklin I & II, Henderson, Marquadt, Irvin) ________________________________________ Iconz - LOLLOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconz Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Wooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwww Machida vs Evans! Wooooowwww! Just BRUTAL! ________________________________________ Iconz - Good fight! Good night! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 OMFG That was one of the best fights I've ever seen. Machida is a ****in animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npc_death Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Machida is KING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconz Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Lyoto aint just any animal... hes friggin RYU! Sidenote... when Foupa-Pokam was comin out i was like "you better not get knocked out.. comin out dancin like a fool"... and sho nuff... the karma police got him... Oh and Serra got robbed... __________________ Iconz - SHOOORYUKEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Oh and Serra got dominated... fixd. I like Serra though, but the fact remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npc_death Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Serra didn't get robbed. I would have called it a draw if I were a judge. They left it way too close to call. Hughes dominated the second round unquestionably (10-9). Serra took the third round with the final take down, a nice triangle attempt, and a couple of oma platas. (9-10) The first round is the question mark. Sure, Hughes got rocked, but that was primarily due to a head-butt followed up by a strike to the back of the head, both of which are illegal. After that, Hughes recovered, got a take down and rode out the round. If you take away what was illegal and factor in the striking before the head-butt, then there's an argument for Hughes. You could also have given it to Serra because of the follow-up strikes after the head-butt/illegal strike, but the judges may have simply expunged that whole exchange due to the illegality of the initial contact. I would have called it a 9-9 round. Bottom line, neither looked too impressive, and there's an argument for either one. Also, Hughes needs to not press this talk about avenging his losses. That would be a good way for him to finish his career with L's. He hasn't evolved enough and is a bit too slow to face GSP or Thiago again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconz Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 npc.. yeah i woulda called it a draw too... i just didnt think it should have been a unanimous like the Terrah (you gotta say it w/ the Jersey accent) was never in the fight... specially since he was doin more on the ground. oh in other news... Kimbo Slice is going to be on the next season of TUF... hahahahahaha. While my brain is tellin me he aint even gunna make it out of the audition fights... part of me really wants to see him win the whole thing... JUST to see the look on Dana White's face. It would make for really good TV... but I bet you White puts him up against the best heavyweight guy they got durin the audition... unless he somehow gets talked into givin him a scrub so Slice has a shot to get in and bring ratings for the whole season. __________________ Iconz - Loves the underdog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Child Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Dude...will he survive the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npc_death Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I think Kimbo is going to do decently. I hope he doesn't, but he probably will. This season outta be intense and hilarious with Evans and Rampage as the coaches. Regarding the Hughes-Serra fight: don't forget that unanimous decisions don't mean the opponent didn't do well. It just means that all three judges are in agreement that one fighter won more rounds than the other. Split decisions don't mean that the fights were close. They mean that one of the judges felt that one fighter won and two others feel that the other fighter won. Majority decisions occur when one judge feels the fight was a draw, and two agree that a single fighter won. A majority draw is when two judges agree that it was a draw, and one judge believes there was a single winner. Those are all the decision types I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconz Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Mudder... maybe... if he passes the audition fight first hahaha. yeah... i know what the decisions mean npc. Its just... usually when a fight is that close at least ONE judge scores it for the other guy... just weird. Why do you hope he doesnt do well? __________________ Iconz - "All judges score the fight 30-29... In a unanimous decision... Iconz wins the internets" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npc_death Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Another note about Kimbo: I don't understand while people still nay-say fighters. MMA fans tend to be very elitist and hold that MMA is a pure sport in which large brutes cannot succeed. In my opinion, Lesnar has proven the nay-sayers wrong. Some may say that he hasn't had a decent test yet since Herring isn't all that skilled and that Randy is just too small and a bit too old. I contend that Lesnar simply evolved as a fighter and is a natural athlete. Having trained a little bit, I can attest that people can evolve as fighters very quickly. Once you reach a certain skill level, it becomes much more difficult to improve, but this holds true with just about everything. If you take natural athletes and give them 1-2 years of dedicated training under competent coaches, they can become animals and can (and often do) defeat fighters with much more experience. The key is to actually become better and not rely on athleticism alone. I don't count Kimbo out at all. Sure, he's relatively unintelligent, or so I would assume without actually knowing him. However, he is clearly a natural athlete. He is an aggressive, strong monster of a man. Given training, he will be able to defeat some (not all) more intelligent fighters who are less athletic if he evolves as a fighter, which he probably has. Don't judge Kimbo by the backyard brawls. Don't judge Kimbo by the Petruzelli knockout. If anything, that knockout has only made Kimbo more dangerous because now he realizes that he is not invincible and that it is crucial to become the best fighter can possibly be. We see fighters in 4-8 month increments typically. Don't forget they can evolve during that time. And don't forget that MMA is not a sacred, honorable sport available only to true warriors who are intelligent. It is also open to the monsters and thugs...like Kimbo. I really can't stand the image he brings to MMA, but that doesn't mean I don't think he has the potential to evolve and destroy. (However Machida trumps all.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRins Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Put it down right now...Kimbo loses in the semis. He'll run through those without technique. Then he'll meet a sound, scientific specialist (aka a boxer or a straight jits kid.) and he's do what he did against Petruzelli...not a damn thing. EDIT: Lets not forget that Lesnar was an all-american wrestler in college. He isn't just some ham-handed brute, despite him gorillaish appearance. As far as who is more of a "brute" anyone with an eighth of a brain would see there is a lot more technique in Brock's game than in Kimbo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npc_death Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Honestly, I don't mind his success simply because he does have children to feed, and I want him to be able to do that. However, my gut reaction is to say that I hope he doesn't succeed because of the image he brings to MMA. I'm getting over that image thing though. That's why I wrote my previous post...I've just known a lot of guys who hate to see thugs take away MMA from classy athletes. I used to be that way myself, but I'm getting over it...trying to anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npc_death Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 KRins, I totally agree and have contended that in defense of Brock all along. But you know as well as I do that there were a TON of nay-sayers who couldn't look passed the WWE thing. I compare Kimbo to Brock because of fans' tendencies to say that these guys simply cannot succeed. They can, and my point in that long post was that natural athletes can learn it quickly, quickly enough to improve their games while the nay-sayers still say "nay" and are shocked when they see a good performance by someone they believed could not become a "true" mixed martial artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRins Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Man has to make money somehow...and I'm sure Brock did pretty well for himself in the WWE. I'm glad I'm not the only who does even the slightest bit of research before drawing conclusions on fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npc_death Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 I think Willie is deeper into it than me just based on his posts. However, I'm enthralled in MMA. I watch all I can, study fighter profiles as much as I can, and train as much as possible. Unfortunately, my dependent health insurance went up after graduation, so I haven't been able to do any training in the last 6 months. Luckily, I'll have my own health insurance when I begin teaching in August, so I'll be able to resume. Anyway, no, you're not the only one. Like I alluded to, I used to be one of these MMA "purists," which is really just an MMA elitist. Fighting has too many variables (including luck) to count anyone out anymore, so I've given up on that. Bottom line, any fighter can beat any fighter on any given night. Sure, some may have a greater probability of victory, but there are just too many variables to be sure. That's why I don't bet...though I feel like I should because I've probably got a 95% correct prediction rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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