HeadbangerWillie's MMA Corner

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I dunno bout anyone else... but i was disgusted to see Lesnar win... kinda ruined the night for me hahaha.. then to have to hear him give his WWF speech tellin the fans to boo him just made me roll my eyes.

man... sometimes

... i mean c'mon Ali OOOOOZED theatrics... and he was the greatest... but Lesnar just rubs me the wrong way. You have to be entertaining w/ your theatrics... Lesnar has always just been rude... and pretty much sounded like a big dumb redneck. Yeah hes a great athlete... yeah he can wrestle... but you cant ever convince me that he was deserving of that title shot. Whatever tho... he has the belt now... and there are some hungry guys coming for him.

I dont know if id agree fully w/ the Tank comparison... i mean Tank was a street brawler w/ no ground game or anything else... Lesnar is a big brute with excellent wrestling. Fact of the matter is... until they get a dude who is Lesnar's size (280 on fight night) then he is goin to continue to use his weight to dominate guys. He will lay on top of you... pin your arms down and continue to smash your face until the ref stops the fight. As much as i dont like Lesnar... using those tactics i can see him beating someone like Fedor. This is why i really really REALLY wanna see Bobby Lashley come to the UFC and take on Lesnar... super heavyweight vs super heavyweight... aka the fight of the silverback gorrillas hahaha. Unlike Lesnar... Lashley is actually putting in some work in the sport... not trying to take huge fights and just humbly workin his way up.

Raargant is right about the Shaq comparison... but check it... Shaq had other dudes as big as him in the NBA so he could constantly prove his dominance... who in the UFC is as big as Brock Lesnar? Lesnar cuts weight to get to limit of heavyweight (265 i think) and on fight night he's prolly walking around at 280... who has he fought in the UFC at that weight? So its a legit thing to talk about his size giving him an advantage but of course thats in addition to his wrestling skills and his strength. Just like if Shaq only went against 6'8 dudes all the time... it would be a legit point to say "well... his opponents are giving up a lot of weight" especially when his tactic is to post you up (or in lesnar's case to lay on top of you).

I dont buy Hendo's elbow as being dirty... every fighter will continue to throw punches until the ref pulls them off... its called finishing the fight... hell i bet you it was purely instinct and not revenge that made him drop that punch... you see the guy go down and you jump on him. I found Rampages punches on a KOd Wanderlei to be dirtier than that elbow by Hendo. The moment the ref touched Hendo... he got off... Rampage gave Wanderlei at least one to two more extra punches after the ref started to pull him off. I think thats just something Hendo said after the fight to talk a lil trash.. but i honestly doubt he was really doin it to be dirty or to shut him up.

Lets talk about a real MMA fighter though... GSP... what dominance! Im not even a big GSP fan... but that was pure domination! Im surprised it wasnt even a lil bit closer.

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So lets hear some of the predictions for 101.

[HBwillie]

I really like this card because the fights are hard to pick.

Josh Neer VS Kurt Pellegrino - I really like both of these guys. Both dangerous all around, both have a lot of heart. I'm gonna have to say Neer by split decision.

Kendall Grove VS Ricardo Almeida - Give me Almeida by 2nd round sub. I don't particularly care for "Da Spyda". Let him fight the real "Spider".

Amir Sadollah VS Johny Hendricks - I want Amir. I've only seen one of the other guy's fights, and I wasn't all that impressed. He's tough, but so is Amir, and Amir fought through TUF house. He's proven.

Anderson Silva VS Forrest Griffin - This would be an amazing win if Forrest could pull it off. I do see a few holes in Silva's game (so shoot me), but I don't think the big monkey is gonna be the guy to expose them. Silva, 3rd round TKO.

BJ Penn VS Kenny Florian - Ohh man, this is one I'm excited for. I'm going with my heart over my head in this one. KenFlo by decision. There...I said it.

[Rethrick]

This is the best predictions I have ever read in this board. I agree with all of your calls HBwillie.

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You're not the only one, Willie. I said a while ago I predict Kenny to win TKO. I stick by that.

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You know, I am gonna have to disagree. I really feel BJ is gonna last the fight out, and the fight is gonna be 28/29 for penn.With a cut on K-Flo stifling him second round.

I agree with your other predictions for the most part,, though I will say Grove has some serious advantages having 10 foot long legs, so Im thinking it is a very close fight skill wise, Almeida's sub game might be able to turn the fight around, but I am not expecting it honestly.

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Thing about a championship fight is that it's 5 rounds, not 3. I can't see BJ keeping up with Kenny's pace. Even if BJ has really been training his cardio, he's not going to be able to stifle Ken for 5 rounds. He'll have to finish him to win or run the major risk of getting finished in the 4th or 5th.

I personally see a 3rd round TKO for Kenny.

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Then we sir have a bet.

My bad on the scoring as well, I am doing like 40 things at once and it skipped my mind. I still feel there IS going to be a good second round cut on kenny, and I do feel that BJ is going to ride it out after the cut, playing a conservative, smart fight.

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Bet accepted.

I'm curious about what holes Willie sees in Silva's game.

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The only thing I ever thought anderson could use more of was dirty boxing, he wants to clinch alot, you get a guy with good muay thai defense, and an aptitude for elbows. That could be a bit interesting but hell. You stand up to trade with silva, pain, you take him to the ground, "Hi, am a a BJJ black belt, but thanks for trying" I think the key to silva is gonna be some oddly positioned subs. Heel hooks and the like. Trying to go heads up on his ground game and looking for a GnP is viable, but I doubt it will happen without a triangle going first.

Edit: I guess what I am saying is if you get someone with a solid chin, who likes the dirty boxing, it is going to take him out of his element. Silva relies very heavily on his speed, and accuracy to win, pitting him against someone who can keep pressure on, without soaking up a ton of quick-clinch knees, then it is going to put the pressure on Silva.

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Submission defense. Everybody knows Anderson lost to Chonan, because of that crazy fast flying heel scissor lock. That was the highlight of Chonan's career and I don't believe it would ever happen again. However, Anderson HAS been known to give up his arms, back, and legs, nearly being submitted on numerous occasions. He barely manages to escape most times, like when Travis Lutter (who was fat and out of shape) got sloppy with an armbar attempt, but there was also the time he got triangled in Pride 26 vs Takase. Silva is reluctant to engage on the ground. You can see this in the Thales Leites fight. I know it was strategy forcing him back onto his feet, but it's obvious what he's more confident in.

Now don't get me wrong, I know Silva has good submissions. His record won't show it, though. He has four fights stopped via submission, only one of which wasn't due to strikes. I'm just saying he can improve on defense.

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Yeah. Leites could have potentially exploited that, but he was clearly not the man to do it either. It'll take an aggressive wrestler with great submissions. Maybe Maia will beat Marquardt and we'll see Maia get a shot. Though, I don't want to jump the gun and say that Hendo doesn't have a shot at beating Silva when they go again. I hope he can do it.

Also, I'm looking forward to Belfort v. Franklin. It's at the catchweight of 195, so I guess that means Vitor will eventually cut to 185 later if a shot comes his way.

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I get the feeling Maia won't beat Nate...but he could possibly beat Anderson. Weird, huh? Also, I like Franklin in that fight.

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Just watched a clip of BJ Penn hiring a new strength and conditioning coach and getting after it. A well conditioned BJ is going to be a mess for Kenny. I am really, really excited about this fight!

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Anderson Silva is a MONSTER!!!!! Without a doubt the #1 p4p fighter... above Fedor... above GSP... matter of fact bring on GSP! Im just in shock...

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That's what I've been saying... D:

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Anderson Silva is a MONSTER!!!!! Without a doubt the #1 p4p fighter... above Fedor... above GSP... matter of fact bring on GSP! Im just in shock...

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I am not sure I could put him above Fedor. No one has been able to even get Fedor in trouble. I have actually only seen him take ONE punch that did anything. His only loss was due to a cut. Fedor is a freak. I still think he is the #1 fighter in the world.

[HBwillie]

Fedor is #1 in my book also. Torres and Silva are up there, though I feel I have to give the nod to Torres. He's so damn well-rounded.

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.... and..... there goes Torres. Miguel Torres is no longer the king of the JV fighters... Mike Thomas Brown has the crown of the WEC . All hail King Brown.

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Ugh...I didn't see that coming. JV fighters my ***...there's no 135 division in the UFC. Anywayyyy, Jose Aldo is gonna pulverize Mike Brown.

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Let's be honest here - WEC is the UFC JV. Anyone losing in the UFC gets to go try their hand at the WEC. Obviously UFC doesn't have the lighter weight classes but I truly don't see Torres as being in the TOP 3 in the world. WEC definitely does not have the competition that the UFC has or Pride had. WEC more like the UFC's heavyweight division, which is crap at the moment because most of the best heavyweights won't fight in a cage. Torres is really sloppy in many of his fights and if he were to fight a really good technician I think he would get caught. He is not on the same caliber as Fedor, GSP or Silva. He is top 3 in the WEC for sure. Top 3 in the world? I can't say that.

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The WEC has extreme talent in the lighter divisions. There was so much talent in the WEC, in fact, that the UFC had to absolve the heavier division to strengthen their roster! You see a lot of newer guys in the WEC. There are always people you haven't heard of, up and coming, trying to make a name for themselves. While the UFC is a grander stage, there are definitely some lighter weight guys in the WEC who are just as good, if not better than, UFC fighters (pound for pound).

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I don't question their talent. They wouldn't be were they are without being talented. I just don't see any of them as pound for pound on par with Fedor, Silva, GSP, Machida (who I think will be the champ for a long while) or Penn (who finally figured out his ONLY weakness is conditioning).

Torres is in the top 10 in my book though I think if he fought a solid striker he would get knocked out. He, like Faber, tends to get sloppy and showy in what he does. Faber won't take his belt back from Mike Brown. Someone else might be able to beat him but Faber won't. Brown is straight forward and very strong. Faber's flashy style doesn't mesh with that.

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I just watched Brian Bowles level Torres. Happened because Torres had his hands down coming forward (being sloppy) and he got leveled.

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Faber lost the first fight because he got flashy. He lost the second because his hand was broken very early in the fight. He still managed to make it very, very competitive. I'm sure the second fight would've gone his way, were it not for that injury early on.