Sinavestos Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 I should probably add the fact that I've never played a cleric ... I've only ever been on the receiving end of the whole minister ****edness. But I for one have always been able to get away ... generally because I try to stack my saves to defend against minister, and the second it lands, I generally book. Much the same as when I played a bmg and was fighting against people who could cast silence ... once it lands, you're not going to win (well ... for the most part. There *are* certain classes that can still lay the smack down on a cleric while ministered) ... oh well, run and try again later. Granted, minister makes it harder to run ... but at the same time it doesn't take away your class's ability to do *anything* useful. And seriously ... if you're running fast enough, minister lags you for what, 3 rounds? That's one or two rounds for them to catch up to you, and one path they'll land (maybe two if they're fast) before you can get running again. And the amount of people I've seen that can manage to chase me while I'm running full tilt for two game hours straight I can count on one finger. (Damn you Cariousus ... I hated you so ;P ... and yes I eventually learned who played that sick bastard, but I dunno if he ever revealed it, so if ya know, ya know). Honestly I think I've only died to a cleric once ... and that was when I was in Savant vs. a Nexus FG cleric and another wannabe Nexus drow cleric, and some ranger that was peeved at me, bouncing around Miruvhor vs. all three, (ministered from the first two rounds of the fight) ... and eventually the cleric managed to catch me and bring me down. I mean, it's a major annoyance, yes ... but considering that other classes also get seriously annoying skills/spells, I don't know that minister really needs toned down any more than say, [insert vamp skill], or even [insert blademaster skill], or [insert some other skill people feel like b****ing about]. The game at the moment seems relatively balanced ... I think there are certain classes that have a distinct edge right now, but I don't think clerics are among them. Except for them freakin' fire giants. But c'mon, they've *always* been overpowered. It only makes sense ... if you're willing to sacrifice a major portion of your life to devote to an online game, then sure, you should be able to kill a few people. But honestly, I'd rather fight a skilled FG cleric than a mediocre vamp nine times outta ten. And I haven't even *seen* a lich yet. Maybe we should hold off on asking IMMs to tone things down until we get a few of them runnin around. Might end up clerics are the class that balances out the liches. Who knows? This game is funky like that. Oh, and if clerics *really* peeve you ... roll up a halfling warrior. Snap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted March 3, 2006 Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 [ Fire ] Izlo the Will of Gods [ Drow ] Szarak the Cardinal of Fire [ Demon ] Manipulant the Will of Gods [ Duerg ] Ckernik the Patriarch [ Feral ] Moerderen Sharpclaw the Will of Gods And this isn't even during prime hours. Shall I take a selection of the blademasters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ainbimagh Posted March 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2006 Shall I take a selection of the blademasters? Sure [ Feral ] Zedrunas the Ronin [ Half ] Breggle the Sword Cleaner .. um yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 you forgot loriss, zizelvik, paraxus, ssalithar, and dreckys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 you forgot loriss' date=' zizelvik, paraxus, ssalithar, and dreckys.[/quote'] And the countless lowbies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goomf Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I'm sorry, but what does the amount of blademasters and clerics have to do with sermon/minister? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Child Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 They are saying they are more powerful classes so more people are playing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Plus, blademasters (with the right anatomies) can seriously lay the pain on a cleric. Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goomf Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Bah, dkns are the most powerful class. I don't know what you crackers are smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeleeCrazy Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Bah' date=' dkns are the most powerful class. I don't know what you crackers are smoking.[/quote'] HAH, LOL you ought read the DK poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpnow Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Clerics are amazingly powerful in the right hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Clerics are amazingly powerful in the right hands. ANYTHING is amazingly powerful in the right hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ainbimagh Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 since dk tone down of malform and receive improvement of almost every single class... they aren't doing well at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goomf Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 HAH' date=' LOL you ought read the DK poll.[/quote'] I already read it. Hence my reference to crackers and smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeleeCrazy Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 They are far from being anywhere close to the most powerful. Not that they can't be great I love DK's but well let's not get into all this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grosek_ Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Unless he's really lost his touch, I'm betting he could get a couple malforms in no time an school the majority of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeleeCrazy Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 maybe.....maybe not.... But then that's how it gos with dk's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Child Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Right up until he ran into a blademaster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Since Vampires are Dark Knights, its safe to say Dark Knights are the most powerfull class in FL. If you dont belive: [ Human ] [Cabal] XXXX XXXXX XXXX the Unholy Knight I think this proves all. PS: Who was it that had that twisted logic ? An old forum menber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Child Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Vampires are not DK's. Lets leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeleeCrazy Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 PS: Who was it that had that twisted logic ? An old forum menber. Eh, what cha talking bout MYA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Since Vampires are Dark Knights' date=' its safe to say Dark Knights are the most powerfull class in FL.[/quote'] Thats like saying Warriors/zerks/pallies are crusaders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 And humans are undead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Since Vampires are Dark Knights, its safe to say Dark Knights are the most powerfull class in FL. If you dont belive: [ Human ] [Cabal] XXXX XXXXX XXXX the Unholy Knight I think this proves all. PS: Who was it that had that twisted logic ? An old forum menber. I think it was Cycel, and Cycel logic? Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Child Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Cycel (does not = ) logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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