Aulian Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I hate being ganged. I hate it badly and I can say this because it happened to me recently' date=' and I was full looted. But you can't get that mad at it. Just learn to be more paranoid. You never have to die, there is always a point in the fight where you should just say F^^K it, and dip.[/quote'] You obviously havent faced the squid with three travens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPapa Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 How can anyone be angry at a guy who looks like Johnny from The Karate Kid? No, he looks like the 14 year old kids who come by on Halloween and say "trick or treat" Do you still give them candy? They are 14! But then again, IKFL would just go up and take candy from the 7yr olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I've Killed for Less Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 No, he looks like the 14 year old kids who come by on Halloween and say "trick or treat" Do you still give them candy? They are 14! But then again, IKFL would just go up and take candy from the 7yr olds. Ok you have me pegged. I target the weak and newbs. I cant help it. Hiding in dark alleys and hitting little kids on the head with my blackjack on all hallows eve is a favorite past time of mine. I then pry the sacks of candy from their lifeless bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calron Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 You obviously havent faced the squid with three travens. Honestly, if you are any sort of melee it isn't that big of a deal. Its been done countless times to the point where it shouldn't really be a surprise anymore. Regardless of how many zombies/what zombies they have, illithids still eat damage like its their job. IMO, the reason everyone has such a difficult time with this combo is that they are afraid of it going in. Beating it is not difficult, but you can't be hesitant about it, or that gives them the advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Oh I know what Im doing.. But it doenst change the fact that a well played necro has a few advantages when his zombies bash like no tomorrow and there are three of them. Makes for some easy flees and re-enters or even o all rescue My previous comment was alluding to the fact he said you can just pack up and flee if the goings tough - not always the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celerity Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Aulian? What are you doing? Get back to my thread and finish that comment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Oh crap, I keep forgetting about that. What are you doing up Cel? Arent you in japan? Isnt it like 3am there? Its bloody 4:30am here... Cant sleep... But might try again. If I cant I'll reply to your thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I have. I find the Extra size and increased level a pain to deal with. They trip and bash like there is no tomorrow. And normally there isn't as you die. And when you manage to reduce the Squid HP to zero, Shock kicks in and he is still at 33% HP. Also, Squids defend as well as any Other Necromancer Race. They might have less defence vs Mobs, but they racial parry, so no unknown weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 You obviously havent faced the squid with three travens. We should all agree that this isn't the same game at 50. When you fight the elder of Syndicate you better be prepared to kill him because there isn't any getting away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 omg, screw ghoul touch. Screw ghoul touch in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I fought Kurvikhel as a pally with 60/60 hit dam, a pally with a perfect balance of saves, ac, and hit/dam. 3 travens completely wrecked me with 350 ac, a two handed no disarm, and balanced saves. I cannot compete with 8-12 lacerates + bashing dirting tripping disarming mobs. Not to mention there is still a scary *** necro there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calron Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 I fought Kurvikhel as a pally with 60/60 hit dam' date=' a pally with a perfect balance of saves, ac, and hit/dam. 3 travens completely wrecked me with 350 ac, a two handed no disarm, and balanced saves. I cannot compete with 8-12 lacerates + bashing dirting tripping disarming mobs. Not to mention there is still a scary *** necro there.[/quote'] If you were taking lacerates, you were doing something wrong. And if you were taking 8-12 of them, you forgot to wear a weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 In a very recent battle, realistically with a class that has decent defense, I was taking about 8 mauls or so per round. Add in the mad dispelling and ghouling of that fool, it's a sick set up. He does well for himself, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 If you were taking lacerates' date=' you were doing something wrong. And if you were taking 8-12 of them, you forgot to wear a weapon. [/quote'] I had ONLY hells fury + ember. Never took it off. Ever. Also at pinn Kurvikhel is the only person Maerothir the pally ever died to. So I think I was doing fine, just 3 travens + ghoul touch is POWERFUL Even on my current char fully prepped + prot evil he can suck down slightly less than half my hp in a round. NOTHING you can do there at all. Also I am not trying to incite some Travens are OP crap either. Im just saying my last two serious pinns could not deal with those zombies hehe. Thats all. Kurvi is a VERY well played monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Meh, the fact that he is a grear RPer and PKer at the same time irks me more than him being a great PKer. There are quite a lot of necro banes running around at rank 50 atm. Him standing strong as he is, just means that he is a superb player... and RPer most annoyingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calron Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Check out the PK logs section. There are more than a couple logs with Travens and they show non-caps damage (in most cases, without protection), and very few attacks going though. If you take a look at the Dyendas log, he is taking injures (elf paladin like yours). Note also how there aren't even half that amount of attacks going through even after he was disarmed. http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=690 http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=2378 http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=4670 http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=6420 http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=9641 The conclusion here is that Kurvikhel is strong because of whomever the player is, not because of the combo. I am fairly confident that the overwhelming majority of the pbase would not last any longer than they would with Drstams given a free set of Travens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I've Killed for Less Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Check out the PK logs section. There are more than a couple logs with Travens and they show non-caps damage (in most cases, without protection), and very few attacks going though. If you take a look at the Dyendas log, he is taking injures (elf paladin like yours). Note also how there aren't even half that amount of attacks going through even after he was disarmed. http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=690 http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=2378 http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=4670 http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=6420 http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=9641 The conclusion here is that Kurvikhel is strong because of whomever the player is, not because of the combo. I am fairly confident that the overwhelming majority of the pbase would not last any longer than they would with Drstams given a free set of Travens. Kurvikhels zombies wear full suits of adeptus gear, and his golems have zombies that have zombies of more zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Kurvikhel isn't that strong. The previous Syndicate Squid was better. But something i have to give to Kurvikhel, he learns. And keeps learning and keeps getting better and better. He was a lot more easy at the start. Travens are quite strong but not 8 lacerates a round. My dwarven cleric fought them all the time with a Staff, and sended the Owner packing on Ray alone. You just cant gimp your Saves. High saves for evade DISPEL. High saves to avoid Blind + WEaken,Poison,Plague, all - STR spells that will get you disarmed. And AFF saves to save those ACid blasts. We are talking about 50 saves or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I've Killed for Less Posted April 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 He was a lot more easy at the start. I think it would be EASIER to best him if he were unprepared. I didn't really have a point, just wanted to correct your grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 The conclusion here is that Kurvikhel is strong because of whomever the player is' date=' not because of the combo. I am fairly confident that the overwhelming majority of the pbase would not last any longer than they would with Drstams given a free set of Travens.[/quote'] I completely, and whole heartedly agree. I think I have him pegged (based on the superb level of rp, game knowledge, and his pk ability) and the player (that I believe it is anyway) never ceases to do well, and scare the pbase. I wish they would play a damn healer for herald or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted April 22, 2009 Report Share Posted April 22, 2009 Someone post some more recent logs. Something has been done to Necro Zombies in recent times. Logs of 2006-2007 are a bit old. E: Also from change log. [02/22/09]: Zombies will no longer lose their size at log off Logs after this date would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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