The Greased Weasel Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Nature is a viable choice for clerics to choose as a religion so would it not be viable for them to be neutral as well, as a cleric devotes their life to the study and worship of a God or Power, and said Deity is a neutral one, I mean...wouldnt it make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackwilly21 Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I see the RP sense, but balance is an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerbity Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Guys. Druids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 A druid is a druid, im talking about a Cleric who takes Nature as his/her religion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerbity Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 A druid is a cleric of nature, minus protective shield and cure critical, plus a bunch of other nifty things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I think he just wants a watcher cleric to take down tribunals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I look at druids as servants of the land not the god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acerbity Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Ever hear a druid warcry? "So and so, bless this servant of your cause!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 So if we go by their warcry, they could be priests of war, discord, etc not nature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackwilly21 Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 True, I see what he means by having a Neutral Nature Cleric, but when you remort with a neutral human, to the cleric guild, you get (EDIT:No Portal, but you get) Ray, AND minister, I believe. But I'm sure if RP'd well enough, you could do so, with some toning down, but I don't see a widespread class change for it. Level 1: armor 50 mana cause light 50 mana Level 2: cure serious n/a comprehend languages n/a Level 3: create water n/a cure blindness n/a Level 4: continual light n/a Level 5: create food n/a refresh n/a Level 6: detect magic n/a giant strength n/a Level 7: bless n/a faerie fire n/a Level 8: detect invis n/a Level 9: cure critical n/a know alignment n/a Level 11: detect traps n/a protection n/a Level 12: summon n/a Level 13: cure disease n/a Level 14: cure poison n/a remove curse n/a Level 15: locate object n/a Level 16: calm n/a identify n/a Level 17: create spring n/a Level 18: protective shield n/a Level 20: frenzy n/a sanctuary n/a Level 21: faerie fog n/a Level 23: infravision n/a Level 24: dispel magic n/a Level 25: shield n/a Level 26: cancellation n/a Level 27: word of recall n/a Level 28: turn undead n/a Level 29: pass door n/a Level 30: curse n/a Level 31: dispel evil n/a Level 32: bless arms n/a Level 35: stone skin n/a Level 37: spell turning n/a Level 40: ray of truth n/a Level 42: minister n/a Level 45: isolate n/a Level 50: holy hands n/a divine intervention n/a And they get Stake. So, I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 LOL someone was just testing this too I see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackwilly21 Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 That was me, actually, hehe, something to the extent of asdfasdfasdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I wasnt sure who that was, but no path at least Edit: Or portal for that matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greased Weasel Posted March 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Dangit ima try it, mostly cause im curious what Natures DI and Hands do...and ive never played a cleric to 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-D&Der Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I take it that's an adventurer remort? That's a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Heh I know why they do it for balance issues so I'm not getting into it with neutral clerics or avian anything else. (even though half the reasons outside of balance make NO sense... especially given their new city has guilds for said classes... ..o..O..o... :confused: ) But yeah a neutral cleric woudlnt fight for balance perse so much as take a more apathetic/neutral view. They'd still be just as religious or fervent. Such views, nature, war, -gasp- dare I say mystic? Chance anyone? Yeah probably, luck doesn't seem like it would be given much bias. Plenty of feasible religions, concepts. But yeah it's in there for balance. (I loved neutral clerics in one place I played long ago. Oh man did I ever. -grin- ) And yes you would get protection from both (but could only use once at a time) and spells such as ray and path flipside is you WOULD have to put in more training and more pracs. How many neutral only races outside of gnomes really have the int/wis necessary to handle it. I think itd be a ventured gamble honestly -shrug- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuri Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Dangit ima try it' date=' mostly cause im curious what Natures DI and Hands do...and ive never played a cleric to 50[/quote'] Lightning bolt/sandstorm/tsunami maybe whichever depending on what land mass you currently are on (and none if you're in the city ) hands = vines groping/grasping and strangulating or something like that no that isnt what they really do. I don't know and won't try this as it is a bug (much like when adventurers remort to bards - yes I know nobody plays bards hardly but... no songs haha. yeah funny.) -shrug- As much as I'm curious about a neutral cleric I woudln't do it. It's a bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ainbimagh Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 He can be a good or evil aligned nature cleric. Doesnt HAVE to be neutral just cause path is nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb5679 Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 He can be a good or evil aligned nature cleric. Doesnt HAVE to be neutral just cause path is nature. No kidding, think about the pacifist treehugger and the one that pours oil all over someone and screams at the inhumanities of life. I think theres room for alignment difference there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Neutral clerics have occurred in the past as a result of amazing RP of certain characters. They lost several spells to weaken them as to not be overpowered. RP well enough, it can happen to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raargant Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Nature itself is not inherently neutral. That's why goods, neutrals, and (I think) evils can all follow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Neutral can follow Discord. Which is not out of line, but I find it interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfytheelfy Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 You can't have a neutral cleric, the code won't allow it. Belive me I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 I have seen it done more than once..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted March 4, 2006 Report Share Posted March 4, 2006 Neutral clerics have occurred in the past as a result of amazing RP of certain characters. They lost several spells to weaken them as to not be overpowered. RP well enough' date=' it can happen to you.[/quote'] anyone else remember the neutral SHAMAN. so yes, the code can allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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