Good / Neutral / Evil

Perhaps there should be a more defined line as to how people of each path should act, because there are alot of goods running around killing neutrals for no reason, and alot of neutrals killing at free will. I realize pk is pk, but there is a certain aspect to pk that requires role play, and that is alignment. The enforcement of this used to be pretty strict. I find it hilarous that a very neutral, very light hearted race would go around killing people, for no reason. People are too often playing whatever race they think is best for pk and inserting their own personality, rather than role-playing the class/race they picked. This should not be the case, I'm simply recommending stricter enforcement of alignments. There is simply no excuse.

Alright.. what gnome/halfling killed jester....

no seriously, if you are going to play a game that requires role play, then play the damned role. If you want to just go around killing things, hell, make an evil chaotic and pk to your hearts desire, im really starting to get fed up with the poor level of role play that has be exhibited lately. Apparently the player base isnt responsible enough to play their own roles and maybe we need immortals to enforce roles.

I'm feeling a little too much anger from you, over a game.

It is always said in posts like these, just because you don't see the roleplay, doesn't mean it's not there.

I am in agreement with Jester. I have seen it with at least a half dozen char in the last 3 days. There's a difference between good being bloodthirsty against dkns/evil clerics than against other "lesser" evils tna against neutrals. And in the RP world, I am pretty sure that there is no difference between mobs and players. Bloodthirsty is bloodthirsty. I could be wrong. I don't know what the new regime's stance on this is.

I would agree with this, with specific circumstances. Most of these have been discussed before but I will recap what I can remember. Gnomes are peaceful and should not Initiate PK without good RP reason. I tend to treat this like the "You just killed him can you kill him again pre-40 rule". Basically don’t kill him unless he is mocking, taunting, harassing or otherwise making an *** of himself ect. Halflings tend to be friendly and get along with anyone. They just tend to be attracted to the shinier thing in life. I can think of a few right now that do a good job of this.

Many people argue that there are always exceptions but I think that they can be way too over used. Anyone remember the Blood thirsty gnome epidemic a while ago? I don’t advocate banning exceptions but I think they need to be closely modified, Perhaps even to the degree of applying for these RP exceptions. Heaven forbid we have something else to apply for…

Perhaps there should be a more defined line as to how people of each path should act' date=' because there are alot of goods running around killing neutrals for no reason, and alot of neutrals killing at free will. I realize pk is pk, but there is a certain aspect to pk that requires role play, and that is alignment. The enforcement of this used to be pretty strict. I find it hilarous that a very neutral, very light hearted race would go around killing people, for no reason. People are too often playing whatever race they think is best for pk and inserting their own personality, rather than role-playing the class/race they picked. This should not be the case, I'm simply recommending stricter enforcement of alignments. There is simply no excuse.[/quote']

We take this VERY seriously, and align restrictions are there for a reason. If you feel you've been PKed with no reason by someone who shouldn't have (Bloodthirsty halflings/gnomes are the best examples), send us a note. We won't tell you if they will be punished, or if they're violating RP, but we will look into it. Trust us.

We take this VERY seriously' date=' and align restrictions are there for a reason. If you feel you've been PKed with no reason by someone who shouldn't have (Bloodthirsty halflings/gnomes are the best examples), send us a note. We won't tell you if they will be punished, or if they're violating RP, but we will look into it. Trust us.[/quote']

NEVAR! We will never trust someone so trustable! You are TOO trustable. Don't think I'm not on to your plan to control our minds once you have our trust. I don't think so! Good DAY, sir.

NEVAR! We will never trust someone so trustable! You are TOO trustable. Don't think I'm not on to your plan to control our minds once you have our trust. I don't think so! Good DAY' date=' sir.[/quote']

I would've gotten away with it, if it weren't for you meddling RPers!

This goes for more than alignment too...if you feel somebody is violating their RP (ethos, SIGIL, etc), just send an IC note (or prayer forum or whatever) to the relevant IMM.

it is a little out of hand sometimes...

there are some chracters that appear out of nowhere..are neutral and pkill whom/whatever they see...

One, whom i wont name..i have "interracted" with on four different pinns (3 of which on diff align neut/evil/good) each one was attacked without any reason or word. And each one tried to rp after the attack and met absolutly zilch.

Of course, i have witnessed the natural culling of these siltent random killers...a recent thief for example ran about robbing everyone..and basically ended up being hated by everyone. With the intensity of the high end game pkill wise it isnt very wise to just randomly make enemies...so is there a problem? maybe a little, but...over time these "pkill frenzy" toons die off. Most people know quite a bit, and those that are "new" tend to learn fast

The thing thats gotvme lately is Poor losers. I have had people just be straig up *******s after losing in fights they started, or when my toons motive is completly known and i am talking to the person and slay them. Then i get some kind of extremly ooc rude retort..like "shove it" or somelike. This pisses me off persoanlly more than any other of the poor interactions people are mentioning.

Please - send 6 notes an hour about how you're dying to players you don't think should attack you. That way the IMMs can decide not to take anything you send them seriously.

Until then, perhaps you need to learn to run/defend yourself so you:

a) Not die.

Take care of these toons on your own.

Yes, I'm my usual bitter self about people dying/getting attacked and complaining about it. Its a PK/RP MUD - which means as long as anyone can 'dream up' a reason to attack you its RP and they can and will attack you.

Only IMMs have the right to questions peoples RP.

L-A

Only IMMs have the right to questions peoples RP.

Which is exactly why they need to know about it when it happens.

You are suggesting a PK solution to an RP problem..that doesn't really work. You should react roughly the same (in regards to letting IMMs know) regardless if you win, lose, or even finish the fight.

Which is exactly why they need to know about it when it happens.

True - but we all know just to note it and let them take care of it. I didn't see the need for it to go on the forum for everyone to jump on the band wagon.

Yes - I'm quick to reach for my 'PK Problem Solution' because that's who I am. C'mon, did you expect anything else from your truly? :p

Cheers,

L-A

PS - multikilling these guys is effective though. And fun. Had a gnome invoker group mate attack me the other day. Counting down the hours 'til his death

i did this, and the character attacked me again for telling you about it, so i wrote another note, and still he is has yet to pay for it, no disrespect meant.. but searously...

JUST an observation, not an intentional defense of this language: saying "shove it," or even the somelike, isnt exactly OOC. people even on Aabahran would say shove it, and the vulgar versions too. the only rule broken i see is the vulgarity itself, if used. i bring it up because i find most people RPing to uptight. saying "indeed' repeatedly, and being tight lipped i guess to avoid having to speak and possibly mess up the perfect RP language or something. i think people should just talk more with a little latitude and things would end up more colorful

JUST an observation' date=' not an intentional defense of this language: saying "shove it," or even the somelike, isnt exactly OOC. people even on Aabahran would say shove it, and the vulgar versions too. the only rule broken i see is the vulgarity itself, if used. i bring it up because i find most people RPing to uptight. saying "indeed' repeatedly, and being tight lipped i guess to avoid having to speak and possibly mess up the perfect RP language or something. i think people should just talk more with a little latitude and things would end up more colorful[/quote']

what does this have to do with this thread at all? please stay on topic.

All right.

Let me comment on this.

Neutrals are not evil, but they are also not good.

• If i see a neutral attacking a fellow good he will get treated as a evil.

• If a neutral attacks me without provocation i will personaly consider him evil.

• If he does it ala silent PKer no talk, absolute rank "ownage" etc, he will get marked as "No Mercy". Wich includes onsight kill every opurtunity, even when he running from others, badly wounded, or incap.

• If a neutral comes into my zone and does not anounces itself, i will prepare to attack him. If he enter my room and looks at me before saying anything, i will probably attack him (depend on the class i am using).

IT's Goods > Neutrals > Evils.

Not Neutrals > Goods > Evils.

The fact that their are neutrals creates a natural RP distrust towards them.

Very good points, Mya.

Yeah, I'm with Mya. To me, a neutral is just an evil who hasn't done anything yet.