Imoutgoodbye Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 And yes' date=' Valek, if you have tons of muscle it can be a problem(we're talking steroids huge) but otherwise it will actually strengthen your heart and you will be in much better overall health. Muscle = Good weight, fat = bad weight. There actually is quite a difference. [/quote'] Mass = Mass. Fat floats in water. Muscle does not. I'm too lazy to go find the displacement formulas relative to volume, mass, and....I can't remember the third variable, but somewhere in the back of my sub-conscious something is stirring....I'm just too lazy to exercise that muscle. Strength and muscle are not relative to a good cardiovascular work-out, but a tearing of the muscle tissue through a strenuous exercise and regrowing of the new cells/tissue over the old. Point is, BMI is too often ignored. I ignore it. I'm 5' 10" (mabye 11") and I weigh 200 lbs. Although, in terms of heart strength, that varies with genetics and so many other factors...I'm confusing myself again....walls closing in...room getting dark...HELP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 your 5'11"?????? For some reason I always had you pegged as much taller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 So how the crap did we get on the subject of body mass index in a threat talking about how wicked aggressive, and mean the game has become?!?!?!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbond Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 so the original post was about a longtime veteran's pinnacle character harassing a level 43 character off the game on a Friday night at a time where the game barely has any players to begin with. anyone want to address that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGuy Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 We already did, long ago. Then, when everything was said and done, people went off topic instead of just stop talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Re: Goldbond: No. Re: Valek. Yes, muscle size does not have "everything" to do with a good cardio workout but there are many different types of fitness. The people with the healthiest hearts won't be the skinny guys that can run, it will be the muscular athletic builds. Like you said, there are many variables to heart health and if you are skinny and running you're missing out on some very important ones. And also genetics is a huge factor. The BMI scale is just very wrong. It's good as an average starting point at best. It's good for fat people that may not realize they are fat. However, if you are muscular and athletic then you're best off ignoring it and going with what you know is healthy(they do teach these sort of things in schools, though it's amazing how little people know about health.) Good example of a healthy dude that would look obese on the BMI scale? A rugby player. Probably one of the best overall levels of fitness come from this sport but would seem very unhealthy on the BMI. I guarantee their resting heart rate is insanely low and they're sooner to die from brain damage than any heart related problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGuy Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Re: Goldbond: No. Re: Valek. Yes, muscle size does not have "everything" to do with a good cardio workout but there are many different types of fitness. The people with the healthiest hearts won't be the skinny guys that can run, it will be the muscular athletic builds. Like you said, there are many variables to heart health and if you are skinny and running you're missing out on some very important ones. And also genetics is a huge factor. The BMI scale is just very wrong. It's good as an average starting point at best. It's good for fat people that may not realize they are fat. However, if you are muscular and athletic then you're best off ignoring it and going with what you know is healthy(they do teach these sort of things in schools, though it's amazing how little people know about health.) Good example of a healthy dude that would look obese on the BMI scale? A rugby player. Probably one of the best overall levels of fitness come from this sport but would seem very unhealthy on the BMI. I guarantee their resting heart rate is insanely low and they're sooner to die from brain damage than any heart related problems. Because of all the tackles, or because of all the booze between the games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Likely a combination. But hey, gotta live to it's fullest, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I've Killed for Less Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 I want taste buds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aulian Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 im 176 cm and currently (over weight) at 87 kgs.... but... I benched 106 at the gym the other day... And leg press anywhere between 200-250 depending on what Ive been doing at work (bar manager so I basically carry kegs around when Im not at Uni.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_Reefer Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 I'm in an anti-christian doom band and am a gun owning Texan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouselessRogue Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Muscle mass does not equate to cardio. That is very true. I have a few friends that do A LOT of weight lifting but they can't play b-ball for more than 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I've Killed for Less Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 I'm in an anti-christian doom band and am a gun owning Texan. “only steers and queers come from Texas private cowboy, and you don’t much look like a steer to me so that kinda narrows it down” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim_Reefer Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 **** you, I'm from Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Yea grim is a texan, you should here his battle cry. He can never remember his name was Goliad, so he just screams "REMEMBER GONAD!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inscribed Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 you are all fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Yet another guy from japan telling me I am too big. Maybe you need some miracle grow stubby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I've Killed for Less Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Yet another guy from japan telling me I am too big. Maybe you need some miracle grow stubby What you don't know is that the icon inscribed uses is not a char from a video game. It is a picture of him taken only weeks ago, it is also actual size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldbond Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 " these are not the droids you are looking for, move along. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeleeCrazy Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 so the original post was about a longtime veteran's pinnacle character harassing a level 43 character off the game on a Friday night at a time where the game barely has any players to begin with. anyone want to address that? no, i don't believe we did. i think i even saw someone post that if they "don't like the way things are then this isn't the game for you". Not trying to reheat things but i feel we all seemed to miss something crucial in this thread. at this point these kinds of attitudes are killing the game. Oh, I'd rather be FAT and HAPPY, than fit and miserable. This is the one and only standard i use when considering my wieght. at 180 i'd be ripped like jesus, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRins Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 to clear up the what man is over 18 and weighs 135 lbs. I do. I wrestled 112 in high school, 125 in college and find it weighing even this much to be a challenge of intake. I think my metabolism is screwed up from the years of semi-starvation. 137.6 lbs this morning...a decent day from fight weight at any time. Come see me in FL...if/when you the motivation to defeat the allures of a fork much less another person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I've Killed for Less Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 Thread locked. http://ui02.gamespot.com/1793/divthread_2.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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