MadCowDisease Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 why does a mino warrior have the same racial xp penalty as a mino zerk, when a mino zerk gets a bonus to an ability? and its not as if every race of that class has it, so the xp penalty shouldnt be placed on the class.. i guess what im asking is why a mino zerk doesnt have an extra racial xp penalty, or a mino warrior have a little less of a racial xp penalty? doesnt really make much sense to call em equal when they clearly arent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Child Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Same reason drow warriors and drow vokers have the same xp pen, when the chances of you seeing a drow warrior are like... hurms...1 in a billion. Race xp pens are based of the most likely class combos for that race. There have been a few threads about this, even recently, but I'm too lazy to look em up and link em. Maybe WC will, he likes that kinda thing. It's just kinda the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deykari Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Unless something has been changed recently... Mino warriors have a 500 xp penalty (500 for mino, 0 for warrior) and Mino zerks 700 (500 for mino, 200 for zerk)... Dey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Thanks Dey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali_gmud Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Dey is tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorCleric Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 why does a mino warrior have the same racial xp penalty as a mino zerk, when a mino zerk gets a bonus to an ability? and its not as if every race of that class has it, so the xp penalty shouldnt be placed on the class.. i guess what im asking is why a mino zerk doesnt have an extra racial xp penalty, or a mino warrior have a little less of a racial xp penalty? doesnt really make much sense to call em equal when they clearly arent. Mino Warriors do have bonuses on charge, it's just that berserkers get an extra bonus as berserkers. http://forum.theforsakenlands.org/showthread.php?t=15990 WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 ah, there he is. Welcome back WC. Welcome back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deptore Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Dey is tight. Not since WC took a liking to him he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorCleric Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 ah' date=' there he is. Welcome back WC. Welcome back.[/quote'] I'm like gential herpes, I'm always here, you can't get rid of me, and every once and a while I pop out and make some noise before going quiet for a stretch. WC /Damn typos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I'm like gential herpes, I'm always here, you can't get rid of me, and every once and a while I pop out and make some noise before going quiet for a stretch. WC /Damn typos. your a cold sore then, Chay-chay is the real herps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 I think this threat has served it's purpose. Now it will turn into some minotaur is OP/UP thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCowDisease Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 dey, i realize the difference in class xp penalty. that isnt the question.. the class itself does not get that from any race other than minotaur, and so class xp should, and is thankfully, not affected by the ability. I simply question why a mino warrior would have the same racial penalty even tho it is short a bonus. perhaps give them the bonus? and please dont turn this into a mino OP/UP thread.. as for other racial combos, namely the drow warrior.. now that you mention it, i might wanna try it out, it has some advantaged. i'd imagine mastering would be a cakewalk, and it'd be a pain to hit. most warriors i've seen and payed attention to take whip and sword expertise, so it isnt as if wielding weapons would pose a huge issue. Granted they would be insanely hard to play.. i still might try one once i've learned more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 look, EVERY race/class can be viable, some are just easier to do it with. The best cleric I ever had was a human. My favorite warrior was an elf. It is all about how patient you can be in gathering consumables, and how you use your skill set. Anyone else remember vhokrus, or Rinthilaz? Scary HUMAN blademasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCowDisease Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 i know this.. im just curious as to why the race penalty is the same for mino wars as it is for mino zerks, when wars dont get all of the perks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRins Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 They might not get the whole axe attack during a charge perk...but warriors are generally more viable than a zerk, and their other bonuses really are pretty helpful to a warrior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 i know this.. im just curious as to why the race penalty is the same for mino wars as it is for mino zerks, when wars dont get all of the perks. The player base in general does not have the knowledge you are looking for. However, if you find us a shrubbery, perhaps we can point you to the proper castle your princess is in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCowDisease Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 We are no longer the knights who say "Ni!" .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 i know this.. im just curious as to why the race penalty is the same for mino wars as it is for mino zerks, when wars dont get all of the perks. Because Viri-bot in his infinite widsom () decided that all races have a base experience penalty. Which is why a drow cleric (monster) and a drow warrior(flubanimal) have the same exp pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 why does a mino warrior have the same racial xp But wait theres more! dey, i realize the difference in class xp penalty. that isnt the question.. Dude I am ****ing done with you. Each race has their own exp pen smoke it and enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pali Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 i know this.. im just curious as to why the race penalty is the same for mino wars as it is for mino zerks, when wars dont get all of the perks. Would it be ideal if every race/class combo had its own tailored exp penalty? Yes. But what we have now works just fine 95% of the time, so I don't mind that the IMMs are working on other things instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCowDisease Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 But wait theres more! Dude I am ****ing done with you. Each race has their own exp pen smoke it and enjoy it. read what you posted again and figure out the difference in the two and what i was actually saying instead of just trying to be an arrogant d***. not gonna start a flame war over it, but c'mon dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCowDisease Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 Would it be ideal if every race/class combo had its own tailored exp penalty? Yes. But what we have now works just fine 95% of the time, so I don't mind that the IMMs are working on other things instead. agreed. i was just curious as to why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted June 16, 2009 Report Share Posted June 16, 2009 agreed. i was just curious as to why. Your approach to the subject seemed less than curious. Remember your approach will ALWAYS dictate how other people react. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCowDisease Posted June 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 yeah i guess. again im not saying its something that should be put up on the list of things to review. just one of those things that seems kinda weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Child Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 just one of those things that seems kinda weird. You sir obviously havn't taken a shower with Byrntryst... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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