Guest emp_newb Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I was looking through some ID files, and evils have alot more buff eq than goodies do. Alot hehe. Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 They're supposed to have more "buff" equipment as goods are supposed to rely more on being defensive/curing? Rumor that I heard anyways. I like to gossip. Do you like gossip? Oh, scrubbing the Immortal hot tub, the things you think you hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Valek nailed it. It's like the difference between Nexus skills and Knight skills. It's not like Knight skills suck, they are just good in another way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Mournblade, Stormblade, Soulblight? 3 of the best swords in game. All antigood. Give me a worthwhile goodie axe. Give me a worthwhiel goodie sword. I think maybe we should toss one or two l33t *** goodie only items that are not meant for casters.+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well, I've never been much of an EQ junkie, but I will throw the bastard sword and the mithril sabre somewhere there. Yes they are not perhaps as good as the ones you mentioned, but hey, all you have to do is request them. Axes - notched axe is not that bad, the rib too. I've never IDed Ssluthril and the forgeman's hammer but can't they be carried by goods? PS. I think a lot of people are putting way too much stress on EQ. You don't have to be decked from the ears to the heels to be PK vaible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Well, I've never been much of an EQ junkie, but I will throw the bastard sword and the mithril sabre somewhere there. Yes they are not perhaps as good as the ones you mentioned, but hey, all you have to do is request them. Axes - notched axe is not that bad, the rib too. I've never IDed Ssluthril and the forgeman's hammer but can't they be carried by goods? PS. I think a lot of people are putting way too much stress on EQ. You don't have to be decked from the ears to the heels to be PK vaible. I did not mean you have to have uber rares. But there is a distinct advantage when a decked evil has 100 more ac and 15/15 more hit dam than a decked goodie. Also the fact the evil haste item is 24 hours, the goodie is one hour? Storm, mourn, soulblight-31 avg damage bastard 27? Mithril 28? Forgemans is neut only- Sslutheril is ok, but overall it is burnproof and disarmable. Just saying the l33t evil gear outclasses the l33t goodie gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 I did not mean you have to have uber rares. But there is a distinct advantage when a decked evil has 100 more ac and 15/15 more hit dam than a decked goodie. Also the fact the evil haste item is 24 hours, the goodie is one hour? Storm, mourn, soulblight-31 avg damage bastard 27? Mithril 28? Forgemans is neut only- Sslutheril is ok, but overall it is burnproof and disarmable. Just saying the l33t evil gear outclasses the l33t goodie gear. Wait, wait...I'm having a premonition, baby! Good = Underdogs. (not really, but kinda, ya know?) Evils = Ultimate threat. (not always, but kinda, ya know?) Erego, evils have the easier path, goods must struggle. Builds character. (usually, but kinda, ya know?) You see where I'm going yes? (probably not, but kinda, ya know?) And yes, I did see what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killalou Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 How about the lightning spear and trident? Both good goodie weapons. Vorpal sword? What about the staff retribution? Divine right of kings anyone? Mace of holy spirits???? Whip of divine power? The actron? Point being goods have plenty of plenty off good weapons. Dont discount a goodie equivalent weaker because of a lesser avg. damage. Goodie weapons tend to have more bonuses. Now...if anyone should get anything its those damn neutrals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudder Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 And what evil item gives a 24 hour haste? Never in all my time with this game have I even heard of that, nor would I want it. That much haste would hurt you more than help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhokril Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 It was a bug for a little while when we changed the level of the mask of dischord, but it is fine now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandbox Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 And what evil item gives a 24 hour haste? Never in all my time with this game have I even heard of that' date=' nor would I want it. That much haste would hurt you more than help.[/quote'] unless your a decked warrior/zerk carrying lots of curatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L-A Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Good = request and goods help each other. This is perhaps the BIGGEST advantage in the whole game. Evil = a little be better eq and some cooler skills and EVERYONE will come and try to kill you. Neutral = no protection so better damage. You can also group with anyone. Everyone has their own advantages - some in power some in ease of play. L-A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 L-A just laid it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Good = request and goods help each other. This is perhaps the BIGGEST advantage in the whole game. yep, he did nail it. As a goodie you actually have allies....allies you can trust. Heck I always play evils and the entire world can turn on you just because they want your stuff. Evils may get some eq advantages, but they also exist in a more solo environment AND do not get to request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imoutgoodbye Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 AND do not get to request. What are you talking about? I request from corpses all the time. It's faster than goodie request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 What are you talking about? I request from corpses all the time. It's faster than goodie request. no delay either, i tend to get full suits too...man i geuss goodies do suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouselessRogue Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I hardly see how you can say the balance exists because goods don't kill each other. What does that have to do with EQ? Umm.. nothing. Goods do need a few more good weapons. The mithril sabre was a big addition but even then the Soul Forge and Discordant Fiber were added for evil usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 What does that have to do with EQ? Umm.. nothing. Actually, it makes it so they can't circulate EQ among themselves. And healers can hog nice things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouselessRogue Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 Make a top 10 buffest weapons in the game list. See who can wield what. It will be evil top heavy. If being good is such a huge advantage why do the elites never make them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mya Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 "The mithril sabre was a big addition but even then the Soul Forge and Discordant Fiber were added for evil usage." Mitheril sabre is not an addition, is a new name for the old Heron Blade (sword) from Shandor. Also the Sabre is not 28, its 25 average damage. The addition was the Discordant Fiber, this is a nodrop whip that can take a Ember. Clerics and Shamans suddenly stooped using maces and changed to this baby. Any cleric can solo to the weapon. Evil clerics now have another advantage as Good clerics cannot find a Weapon to Ember short of Powerhammer (large group). I have yet to see anyone use Soul Forge. Not bad, but different. In my opinion the game is rigged towards evil. Even Knight powers are pale in comparison with Nexus uberness. But then again you will say i am bias . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VileDeception98 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 All this chatter about goods sucking makes me want to bring back the giggle queen as she was named, and show you all!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegel06 Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I personally prefer goodies, it is true that evils have 'better' eq at peak but I noticed at the lower ranks it is easier for goods to get better eq. Mithril set as an example, compared to the tainted set which could get you killed. I am not sure, since I never solo'd many places, but I heard that evil eq is 'harder' to get than good eq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouselessRogue Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 I used the Soul Forge on Loquaciant. 31 avg dmg. Magic, no disarm, and cool effects. I was consistently demolishing the kelp farmers with it. The heron blade was slightly different than the mithril sabre I do believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 L-A just laid it... No wonder it never called me back... Oh and if it has not been corrected yet, the bastard sword is 28 and the mithril sabre 27. I believe. Also they both are soketable, a big plus in my mind. Durindel, who cares if it is not that strong, I will wield this over half the weapons at 50. I do think goods should get more polearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest emp_newb Posted July 21, 2009 Report Share Posted July 21, 2009 FL TOP10 WEAPON LIST: Hells fury - all aligns Steelfeather- Anti good Soulblight - Evil Only Blood Filled Voulge-anti good Vorpal Sword-Anti good Forgeman's Great hammer - Neut only Arctron- Anti Evil Mourn/stormblade- Anti good Monorod- all aligns Godforged- all aligns 4 that goodies can wear, 3 of them can be worn by anyone. 8 for evils 9 for neuts Goodies have no weapons designed SPECIFICALLY for goodies that compete with the others out there for evils/neuts. Also lets do another comparison Bastard sword to Soulblight (goodie only to evil only socketed swords) Arctron to Soul Forge (goodie exotic to evil exotic) Bone cane to Pincir staff (A relatively close one, but I give it to bone cane for magic damage and being easier to get.) Blood filled voulge to hells fury (this is another good toss up, but I really put my money on voulge for a few reasons. It is MUCH easier to get, and deals magic damage with a better damage roll and better + hit/dam) anyone else please feel free to add to this, and comment on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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