Good boy, bad boy

[f0xx]

Alright, here is one of the subjects in which I've been stuck for some time. The subject of align > ethos > religion > cabal.

Currently, there are three cabals in Aabahran which allow both goods and evils in their halls, which eventually will lead to two goods in two opposing cabals. How do you react to such a situation considering it's just those two people from their cabals. Do you fight the other good? Do you go only for his standard? Are you allowed to battle him but without killing, i.e. mercy?

Also, how do you treat people of the opposing align in your own cabal, and mostly how do you treat that lich in your cabal while you are a healer yourself?

Problems like those have kept me away from even attempting to play a goodie, so please, share your thoughts with me.

[H&R]

RP your way, and see what happens

From my own experience though, your cabal imm will not approve if you fight opposite aligns within your cabal (I suppose this could vary, depending on cabal and imm) and you will always get outcasted if you slay another goodie as a goodie.

[L-A]

Well, you're probably not gong to help the lich or have long showers to the wee hours of the morning if you're a healer. I woudln't see a healer really taking orders from a Lich either.

RP will depend on a lot - usually it doesn't come to blow, but sometimes (see Savants attack each other before).

With two goods in opposite cabals you obviously can't kill them - mercy (if you have it) might be an option. Dodgy, because if someone bags them while stunned you never know what might happen.... Can play obtain and retrieve for a while...until someone else logs on.

L-A

[English lad]

Last time i was in that situation we were told we couldn't try and take the standard, nor try to defend it if we already had it - if a good from the other cabal was around. Made for some interesting RP - and ended up getting me outcasted

Its quite case by case i find - as it comes down to individual RPs and the Cabal Imm's decision.

[mya]

This is what i could gather from my experience:

You should not fight each other.

You should only take his standard if a non good oposed cabal menber is present.

You should alow him to recapture his standard if no one else is around to do it.

Imms will give you some lenience to fight when stanadards are involved, as many strange situations will happen.

If you kill another goodie as a good, you are dooomed and OUTCAST. This is no accident in a challange, but planed murder.

There are also some rules for evils.

Apparently undead cannot PK undead, or something happens.

Undead tribunals are not required to apprehend other undead.

Thus, by inference =>

Good tribunals are not required to apprehend other goods.

With most goods in Tribunal not carring about other goods.

But if you kill one that comes for you, you are doomed.

[Rensvert]

Here is how I see the good vr. good pk situation.

Personally if I was playing a good warmaster and a good savant was on I probably wouldnt hunt him however if he attacked my standard then I would fight him to the death consiquences in all. That other good attacked my cabal and in my mind if joining a clan is a major life choice for my character. Then my character would sure as **** be upset someone attacked his home and most likely be willing to kill to protect his home.

However that is just me and I would probably get outcasted for such an Rp.

Rens

[f0xx]

Here is how I see the good vr. good pk situation.

Personally if I was playing a good warmaster and a good savant was on I probably wouldnt hunt him however if he attacked my standard then I would fight him to the death consiquences in all. That other good attacked my cabal and in my mind if joining a clan is a major life choice for my character. Then my character would sure as **** be upset someone attacked his home and most likely be willing to kill to protect his home.

However that is just me and I would probably get outcasted for such an Rp.

Rens

You realize that in such situation your character will be outcasted and severily gimped if repeated? While I don't say you're wrong, I can't say you are right too. This is why I post here, mostly an attempt to attract some immortal attention so we can have some solid "rules", because, I don't know about the others, but I really getting tired of all the unwritten rules... and in such sitatuation it is clear that there is contradiction between align and cabal choise.

[Lytholm]

It's going to come down to your RP, you're cabal Imm and the exact situation.

I have seen in the past goods not fight each other but take standards ruthlessly and retrieve. I have also seen them not take each others standards but will retrieve it if been taken when they log in. On other occassions they will only take if there is a good cabal member plus another cabal member - and often this results in the goodie cabal member doing the retrieve, esp if the other guy gets beat up trying to defend.

From my POV - if there is a good WM and a good Savant I'll except something to be happening regarding cabal war. That something will not be some deal struck with what Lytholm considers a truly 'evil' cabal ie Savant. I've had this in WM before (just a little while ago IIRC..??) and the goods managed to work it out. Perhpas those involved would post what they did and why.

What I personally will not allow is any WM to go and do eq runs while their is a Savant on. Just because they can't fight them doen't mean they cannot do something to assist the cabal. This could be:

* Take the standard (if you're RP is comfortable with that)

* Retrieve the standard (if its been taken - no exceptions)

* Attempt to recruit others to WM

* Find others to attack the Savant (this does not mean GANG the Savant)

* Stand near bastions while armies attack

* Beat up the Savant to within an inch of their life - not mercy, let them run away. I'm actually unsure of the ruling on this as I haven't been in the habit of attacking goods when I'm good but this might be at your peril. It also might be what your character would do.

I'm sure there are a myriad of other options you can think of that I've missed.

In the end its going to come down to each and every specific situation.

Lytholm.

[corpsestomp]

If there's someone else on in the cabal who isn't good, they're delegated to it. I will take/retrieve standards and probably even defend my own, but I wouldn't chase.