Sneak.

[mya]

How do you work Sneak in a Non auto-sneak race?

I mostly play Elvish sneakers, and I have no idea how advanced Sneak works on other races.

We type sneak and we start sneaking, but as soon as I attack something I lose it. Is there any way to flee and still be sneaking?

I have seen people do this.

[Dale]

I am uncertain how it works, maybe when you are attacked? Or specific types of initiation. One of the reasons I hate playing non elvish rogues. I'm a little rusty on it, but don't rangers have auto quietmovement? I don't ever remember typing a command in for it.

[jibber]

sneak is removed when you are pulled into combat or do several combat initiating things (like blackjack, strangle, assassinate, dirt kick). As far as I'm aware you cannot flee and still be sneaking. There might be a bug where if you're dirt kicked and you flee immediately you keep sneak, but I doubt it.

[Pali]

To clarify Jibber's post slightly - you only stop sneaking when you fail stealth skills like blackjack, strangle, or assassinate. It's entering combat in any form that ends sneaking, and those three skills don't initiate combat if they're successful.

I would not be surprised if certain cabal powers allow you to flee and still be sneaking, but otherwise, you stop sneaking the moment you enter combat. However, I think rangers and druids are capable of having their flee covered by quiet movement.

[f0xx]

She is talking about sneak and thats different from quiet movement, since one goes of automatically according to your envoronment.

There is no way you can sneak directly when you flee from combat, unless you are an autosneaking race or in certain cabal. That being said, you can make a trigger that turns your sneak on when you flee. From my experience sneak has no lag from turning it on/off.

[Pali]

I know it's different, I just figured that I'd point out that difference - this is Newbie Help, and I figure all related information (in this case, a similar stealth skill) is helpful.

And you're right, sneak has no lag (and also works in any environment, which makes training it very easy and relatively quick) - at least, discounting the simple lag that comes with any command input.

[Kyzarius]

eats moves like crazy though, if its not the racial.

[Croyvern]

I remember a Caballed Player who fled all sneaky and was not an elf/drow. Maybe its a cabal thing? Not certain.

[f0xx]

I remember a Caballed Player who fled all sneaky and was not an elf/drow. Maybe its a cabal thing? Not certain.

We did mention a certain cabal has such powers, didn't we?

[mya]

What about +%sneak proficiency. Does it aids anything?

Perhaps this would be an interesting feature.

[Pali]

It aids in your chance of success in typing "sneak" and having it work. Nothing more.

For non-autosneak races, I find giving sneak a failure rate almost pointless, since you can tell the moment you move whether you're spending double move points or not.

[mya]

Pitty that we do not have a neutral Wood elf.

[Anume]

Roll half-elf, send restring app, get approved, voila.

[mya]

You mean that I can have a Neutral Elf with Autosneak this way?

[f0xx]

You mean that I can have a Neutral Elf with Autosneak this way?

I think she means that you can have a neutral h-elf restrung to wood elf this way

[Mindflayer]

certain cabal skills mya, certain cabal skills

[Zavero]

You still have to play a useless half elf.

[Mindflayer]

Half CASTE! At least the dwarves won't hate you as much

[mya]

You still have to play a useless half elf.

Bingo. Who wants to play a half-elf. There is a reason they are the less used class in the game.

[Pali]

Bingo. Who wants to play a half-elf. There is a reason they are the less used class in the game.

Race, Mya, not class. RACE.

[Cephirus]

You could certainly roll a elf and send an app to be neutral... just expect to lose something... or many things, whatever the case may be. I had a neutral drow battlemage.

[Mmm Coffee]

Bingo. Who wants to play a half-elf. There is a reason they are the less used class in the game.

I think Jibber, Mindflayer and H&R should be limited to half-elves from now on.

[Peras]

Because the idea of being schooled by a race that's perceived as inferior is appealing and something everyone should experience?

[mmajunkie]

Okay....who replaced Behrens with Peras?

[Mmm Coffee]

Because the idea of being schooled by a race that's perceived as inferior is appealing and something everyone should experience?

Indeed