sadrael's gone.

[Sandbox]

Sigil is boring, cant kill evils as a purity knight because everyone criticizes you... nexians all have different play times than me for the most part, cant do anything to combat vindis because bards have pugil and no two-handed which makes pugil moot. Was a fun char for a while but in the end, countless hours of sitting around waiting to be hunted down by syndicates while i wait for nexus to log on. I don't think i'll be playing another sigil, its about as fun as going to the pool and just putting your feet in the water watching everyone else have fun in the deep end. never again.

i guess i did what i set out to do and tried to go toe to toe with power combos with a non-dwarf bard. oh well... on to the next one.

[Dale]

I could have had alot more respect for you. But instead here we are.

Just take the death!

However, props on trying this combo.

[f0xx]

If you wanted to run around and kill evils why make a sigil then?

Also, saying things like "waiting for nexians to log in" and then leaving shortly after they actually log in makes you look.... funny.

There is so much negativism in this post...

[Sandbox]

If you wanted to run around and kill evils why make a sigil then?

Also, saying things like "waiting for nexians to log in" and then leaving shortly after they actually log in makes you look.... funny.

There is so much negativism in this post...

honestly i didn't realize everyone will criticize you EVERY single time you attack an evil as a sigil. Especially as purity religion. I have never played a sigil.

as for logging off, i tried to fight everyone in nexus. The cleric vs bard, fruitless cant keep them still, i could do tons of dmg to him but he would just flee at will and heal up. Bard vs warrior, complete joke, virtually any weapon they chose was the correct weapon choice so long as they were dual wielding, and for the other guy who doesnt show his flag its pretty much an uphill battle without two handed because the one weapon i had that he didnt i lost a defense. I tried fighiting them all, and unfortuantely i wouldnt be stron enough till T to land a kill on those 3 classes, never-mind the fact that i had 43 hit 54 damroll and didnt land but 1 maybe 2 hits a round max.

bards melee is just sad unless your fighting an invoker, if i ever play another bard i will definitely not go the hit/dam route. will lean more towards -ac and -svs. I doubt i'd play another one though until the few glaring holes in the class are looked at.

90% of the time the one who didn't show his flag would log in right before my bed time too.

[Dale]

I understand how he feels, honestly.

But Foxx is right. :confused:

[jibber]

Wait..

This half-assed side-ways view people have for Sigils is pitiful. I'd like to say I know the RP of a sigil like the back of my hand.. and it definitely doesn't "forbid" a sigil to attack evils. Especially doesn't forbid them to attack/kill undead, demon, or lich either.

I'm not going to get much into it, but if people are criticizing you in game about your choices (ie, who you attack/fight) then you should bring it to prayer and let the IMMs take care of it. That should NOT be happening. And I, for one, hate it.

[Anume]

Sigils should be less aggressive than praets, as in hunting down hunting parties on a regular basis is a bit over the top (as an example). As long as it is not a SIGIL HEALER though, they are of course allowed to pk evils.

[Sandbox]

Wait..

This half-assed side-ways view people have for Sigils is pitiful. I'd like to say I know the RP of a sigil like the back of my hand.. and it definitely doesn't "forbid" a sigil to attack evils. Especially doesn't forbid them to attack/kill undead, demon, or lich either.

I'm not going to get much into it, but if people are criticizing you in game about your choices (ie, who you attack/fight) then you should bring it to prayer and let the IMMs take care of it. That should NOT be happening. And I, for one, hate it.

every single time i attacked an evil i got " youre very agressive for a sigil." every single time. Honestly i just got tired of it.

[f0xx]

ever single time i attacked an evil i got " youre very agressive for a sigil." every single time.

Well with our PB I won't be surprused.

But saying you got that everytime you attacked an evil is quite an exaggeration.

[Sandbox]

Well with our PB I won't be surprused.

But saying you got that everytime you attacked an evil is quite an exaggeration.

no its a fact, i attacked 3 evils total that were not nexians and every single one said that. it not exaggerated, not even a bit.

[Mmm Coffee]

I've had two sigils and Sandbox is absolutely right. The number of complaints is ridiculous.

[Balgashang]

Thier forces weakening due to internal strife, the knights of the crown sought compromise, and so the faction of sigil was born. Composed of those whom would forgo the BLIND aggression of Praetorian and temper it with wisdom and foresight, thier members watch over the lands of Aabrahan for signs of corruption and evil.

Edit: I don't think it says don't pk, just don't pk every evil you see w/o some sort of legitimate rp reason, other then me good you bad, die.

[Twinblades713]

I'm inclined to say Sadrael was awesome, and the amount of people that complain is NOT exaggerated. I am not flaming anyone, more trying to legitimize Sandbox's dismay. I got several people telling Kumspytch how to be a Gladiator. It's none of their damn business. The same applies to Sadrael, which is why I think you should have told them to shove off if they didn't like it. If you were getting like cabal penalized for this aggression when a Praet was NOT on, I would be very disappointed. In the past, like less than a year ago past, I've dealt with INCREDIBLY aggressive Sigils, whenever a Praet was not on, they'd be hunting. I had no problem with it, just noticed it.

[Anume]

Also keep in mind that whining at you to get rid of you might be an ic move to well, get rid of you!

[Imoutgoodbye]

Hey, Sandbox.....you know how everyone says you're too aggressive?

Hold your middle finger upside down and ask them if physics lets them hear it. If they say no, just turn it up for them.

[Sandbox]

Also keep in mind that whining at you to get rid of you might be an ic move to well' date=' get rid of you! [/quote']

well it worked don't worry, people will be wishing i was playing a goodly bard with my next. Perhaps i'll give people something to actually complain about.

[Balgashang]

Personally, I don't think Sigils/Pandemonium should be uber aggressive. The helpfiles suggest to me they're more support troops for the cabals then the 'fighters' like a praetorian/Reaver. Although I do think the Sigil have the best cabal skills outta those four choices for pk, with Reaver a close second.

[Sandbox]

Personally' date=' I don't think Sigils/Pandemonium should be uber aggressive. The helpfiles suggest to me they're more support troops for the cabals then the 'fighters' like a praetorian/Reaver. Although I do think the Sigil have the best cabal skills outta those four choices for pk, with Reaver a close second.[/quote']

heh, reaver has to be hands down the nastiest subcabal imho.

[The-Nameless]

Heh. Reaver is not the nastiest sub cabal as far as power spikes go. I really give it to Temporum, Then stalker, then reaver. You just see reaver as the strongest cause it gives you buffs you can hit aff and see

[Balgashang]

Oh yea, reaver really comes into its own at trusted, but trusted reaver is like, imo, the -only- way to take down some combos that go sigil and get decked. Most sigils I have played alongside/fought against are just so...much of a brick ****house that you need a trusted reaver to hurt them. Since the vetern reaver spell got toned down, (dishing out damage usually isn't an issue for alot of reavers, so I think the secondary effect of the spell is whats useful) I think reaver is kinda useless until trusted myself.

Edit: I just wanted to add I think Praetorians need some changes, I thought they were one of the weakest sub cabals I had played, and with the helpfiles, I think Praetorians should be alot more badass, but I don't think I made it to trusted with Jistanius, so I'm not sure if they're like reavers, and come into thier own at that rank.

[f0xx]

Grouphug?

[Nekky]

At least your complaints were IC, try playing an elf warrior with mindflayers ;p

But on that note, you shouldn't let people who complain about your actions dictate how you play. It sounds easy enough, but I know it's hard to tune them out, I can't always do it either.

No matter how good your RP is, a large percentage of people are going to say it's crap. I've said it once before, and it goes a bit like this:

When you attack a person, usually their first instinct is to ask, why? If you don't respond, you're automatically "silent pk trash". If you do reply, they usually start trying to think of reasons why your answer sucks. So you're still trash.

You can't win all the time, so just RP like your character should and people can like it, hate it, or get on board.

[Archbishop Monk]

At least your complaints were IC, try playing an elf warrior with mindflayers ;p

But on that note, you shouldn't let people who complain about your actions dictate how you play. It sounds easy enough, but I know it's hard to tune them out, I can't always do it either.

No matter how good your RP is, a large percentage of people are going to say it's crap. I've said it once before, and it goes a bit like this:

When you attack a person, usually their first instinct is to ask, why? If you don't respond, you're automatically "silent pk trash". If you do reply, they usually start trying to think of reasons why your answer sucks. So you're still trash.

You can't win all the time, so just RP like your character should and people can like it, hate it, or get on board.

It is truly disheartening when you pour everything into a char only to have a large portion of the PB complain about how you do this and that. While the desire may be to prove them wrong, in the end, it's far better to just RP your char the way you want and roll with the punches. My current has suffered the same but who cares if your having fun and not being a jerk?

[Hilltop]

It matters because we all want to socialize, if we didn't we'd be playing D&D by ourself somewhere. So when you come up with an rp it's not just for yourself, but you want others to interact and let the character grow. When they step on your idea without trying to understand it's them basically spitting on you.

[Croyvern]

........ :confused: Knight Sigil Sadrael...... Knight first. Sigil Second. Self after Duties. Its spelled out for you. In simple terms, right there in the who list.

"Your kind of aggressive for a Sigil"<------- complaint

"No, I am just kindhearted for a Knight."<-------- Rebuttle