Pieman Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Hrm, the help file for avatars says "Avatars are messengers of Irumeru, and are avenging angels of sorts." So then if you want an angelic char make an avatar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fīv Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Because Angels are an immortal level. 53? It is just a Rank of the staff, it has no bearing on their 'race'. Plus, Avatar is a qclass yet it is an Immortal rank of 52. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelsyome Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 I think the issue is with perm fly tanks.WC There are several TANK classes available for Avian. Avians can be the following classes: Warrior, Thief, Ninja, Battlemage, Invoker, Necromancer, Dark-Knight, Bard and Blademaster. What's interesting is that Dark-Knights (anti-paladins) can be Avian but not Paladins. Though if you think about it... they're even in terms of available races. Paladin - Elf, Human, Half-Elf Dark-Knight - Drow, Human, Avian It's just that Paladins get the..er... suckier extra choice. Though you also have to think of the uses of flight and if paladins have a way to mimic those uses. I can think of only one use of flight that a paladin can't mimic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-3000 Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Because avians can't be clerics. That was an easy one. Maybe I'll just say nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Child Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 What's interesting is that Dark-Knights (anti-paladins) can be Avian but not Paladins. Though if you think about it... they're even in terms of available races. ... It's just that Paladins get the..er... suckier extra choice. Though you also have to think of the uses of flight and if paladins have a way to mimic those uses. I can think of only one use of flight that a paladin can't mimic. I think thats more of a matter of any communer having autoflight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackwilly21 Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorCleric Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 There are several TANK classes available for Avian. Avians can be the following classes: Warrior, Thief, Ninja, Battlemage, Invoker, Necromancer, Dark-Knight, Bard and Blademaster. What's interesting is that Dark-Knights (anti-paladins) can be Avian but not Paladins. Though if you think about it... they're even in terms of available races. Paladin - Elf, Human, Half-Elf Dark-Knight - Drow, Human, Avian It's just that Paladins get the..er... suckier extra choice. Though you also have to think of the uses of flight and if paladins have a way to mimic those uses. I can think of only one use of flight that a paladin can't mimic. You've taking my use of tank to literally in mud terms. The arguement that existed for as long as I can recall was that Warriors, Battle-Mages, and Dark Knights (and I suppose now Blademasters) Do not have affective cures and sanctuary. Half-elves have not always been able to be Paladins, and I really don't understand the idea that foil classes and foil races need to be equal in choices and options and styles. If you wanted to make tit for tat comperisons on Dark Knights and Paladins, then look at weapon choices, lagging abilities, damage abilities, and curative abilities, they are completely different. Besides, you can add Undead and Demon to the list for Dark Knights, and add Avatars for Paladins, paladins still get the shaft. And with the mimicing of flight as a paladin, yes, they can mimic it, but it requires work and upkeep. But really any player can duplicate flight with a flight potion. Still, those require significant work to upkeep. Where as an Avian does not require an upkeep for his flight. Also, the way balance was described to me was that all classes are equal at 50(so paladins upkeep for those skill, however small they may be, still exist and are considered as part of the balance for the class, else the upkeeps wouldn't exist), and what each player of equal skill decided to do(use) is what gives him the edge, so if a warrior decides to use sanctuary potions, then he gains an edge on a battlemage, but then the battlemage has option aviable to him that balances the game again, be them certain scrolls or potions, or even turn the edge to his favor. It is just a Rank of the staff' date=' it has no bearing on their 'race'. Plus, Avatar is a qclass yet it is an Immortal rank of 52.[/quote'] The comment I made about that was given by Sirant(I am near 100% certain of that) when he was on staff, it is not unique to me. If new staff has new rules, then thats fine, you'll get no arguement out of me, but that answer I gave was gospel for as long as I can remember. And players brought up the same coment about Avatars, and the response that was given, I am not sure if I can say it now, but it was about what is shown when you are an avatar. And using that arguement, what prevents people from just RPing an avian as an angel? Why do you have to be a paladin, cleric, or healer to do it? I mean, really, what is an angel? A humoniod being with wings who works as an intermidary for a god. So couldn't any avian be conisdered an Angel by some loose term, for whichever religion they follow? Any of that make sense? Or am I off the mark somewhere? WC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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