Evangelion Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I remember when necromancers lost all zombies any time they quit. I like it that way. (Yes, that was when I played my last necro) ...Man I need to stay away from this forum. You bastards are sucking me in. Aww. But I miss you! Come back to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Nameless Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Pildo was never E. My only E was Thrug, that nexus flail reaver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindflayer Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I remember when necromancers lost all zombies any time they quit. I like it that way. (Yes' date=' that was when I played my last necro)[/quote'] I remember that too. Those were rough times. That's how it always was on AR. Don't see why it should have been that way. I remember Resatimm running around with three level 60 shopkeepers. That was nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liadon Xiloscient Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 So a good leader is judged on RP ability and PK efficiency... What if a person wants to make a Healer a Leader? What would they have to focus on then? PKing then is looked down on... Does that mean RP has to be even better? *wants to be a leader* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhokril Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Notice I said usually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erana Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 So a good leader is judged on RP ability and PK efficiency... What if a person wants to make a Healer a Leader? What would they have to focus on then? PKing then is looked down on... Does that mean RP has to be even better? *wants to be a leader* Number of marriages and time spent idling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Number of marriages and time spent idling. Haaaaaaaaa SMASH Btw, Liadon, a leader must have strong presence above all. It doesn't matter that your character is pacifist if he can get his cabal mates motivated to follow his vision. Everything is possible in FL. Especially now, when immortals are willing to cooperate with players to create unique things. Look Sepahoona's third arm for example. OP? No - ingenious. Edit: I accidently dropped a hammer on that sentence. Whoops. -Atebos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 As I already said Immortals cooperate with the same players all the time.I never had immortal cooperate with me or Rp with me even when I tried.I miss the old good days when there were scary killers that will Rp with you only if they have benefits from doing it.Now the mud is more RP enforced than ever that is what I don't like about it.Take this example, if I am cold blooded killer why should I sit anywhere with you in the map and chat like a bitch with you?How many of you have chatted with Vanicus Tetsunai or Azantar?I miss the rewards purely on PK that is what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Totenkopf- Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I had a long rant typed up but it probably wasn't necessary. In short: Not everyone has ten thousand hours, infact, only very few do. When not having as much time to play as everyone else means you are at a severe disadvantage and will never progress far (I've done alot, most of the time, I play things because I want to try to attain something I never have before - this was the case with Philantees, never happened, infact, at the end of her life she was going backwards) it gets very disheartening. So are about a hundred other factors mostly attributed to the mindset of the current IMM staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 As I already said Immortals cooperate with the same players all the time.I never had immortal cooperate with me or Rp with me even when I tried.I miss the old good days when there were scary killers that will Rp with you only if they have benefits from doing it.Now the mud is more RP enforced than ever that is what I don't like about it.Take this example' date=' if I am cold blooded killer why should I sit anywhere with you in the map and chat like a bitch with you?How many of you have chatted with Vanicus Tetsunai or Azantar?I miss the rewards purely on PK that is what I mean.[/quote'] your kidding right? I rp'ed wiht both of them extensivly. I love how you start off by saying the imms wont RP with you, then follow up by basically saying people who RP a lot are bitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I said that reward should be given as for RP only for PK only as well.It is just not fair in PK/RP enforced mud to be tolerated only RP because it just sucks.Rewards must be equal because I am maybe not good Rp'er but it doesn't mean that I am not dedicated to the game by other matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I said that reward should be given as for RP only for PK only as well.It is just not fair in PK/RP enforced mud to be tolerated only RP because it just sucks.Rewards must be equal because I am maybe not good Rp'er but it doesn't mean that I am not dedicated to the game by other matters. If you're not a good RP'er, make an effort to be better. All you are doing is making excuses - I've seen these types of posts from you before. If you are making an effort, consistently, it will be noticed and probably rewarded. It sounds more like you have a difficult time coming up with goals for your character. Once you have the goals in mind, the rest should come somewhat naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Voodoo Doll Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I remember that too. Those were rough times. That's how it always was on AR. Don't see why it should have been that way. I remember Resatimm running around with three level 60 shopkeepers. That was nasty. ah those were good times. had a dwarf healer back then (old cleric/healer mix, not a FL healer). vainglory was a lot better back then too, was a nice weapon to have vs him after he was turned undead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liadon Xiloscient Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Alright, I think I've got a grasp on what I should do. Keep doing what I'm doing and I SHOULD be alright. *grins* Hope for the best and head towards the light. Ooh-rah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Mm beer-I wonder if this game is only Pk rewarded, will it be fair for you?When I am better at you in PK and get all the rewards only because you are good in Rp?I mean that come on, this things should be rewarded seperately as well, there are very few people that can be good in both of the things, does this mean that only they deserve the rewards all the time?All the time the same people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croyvern Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 The mistake stems from the belief that PK>RP or RP>PK. I do not think with exception of the Herald cabal, it is possible to RP your way to the top. However, I believe that with a moderate amount of RP, you can PK your way to the top of other cabals. One is not greater than the other, and neither can they be equal in all characters. Perhaps the best way I ever heard it explained was when it was compared to drive and desire. We all have desires, these desires become the foundation for our RP. And we all have drive, this internal fortitude aids our desires by bringing the necessary PK skills out of us to see that we reach the goals we set for ourselves. If you are "all drive" then you are all out going for broke and trying to kill at every moment, unfortunately, you have no desires to fulfill. This means you will likely be labeled a trashy PKer. People only see the killer, and do not understand the motivation. On the other hand if you are "all desire" then you are little more than a dreamer with no ambition to actually try and reach your goals. The best way to play is somewhere in between these two extremes. Let your desires drive you to your dreams. As the fellow once said "Know your Role" try and change this to "Make sure they all Know your Role". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhokril Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 The way Anume and I look at it is this: Elder, you need one of: Great RPGreat PKGood at both Leader, you need one of: Great RP and Great PKGood RP and Amazing PK (one of the best ever)Amazing RP (one of the best ever) and Good PK Obviously, these are the minimum requirements, and filling one of those criteria doesn't automatically get you promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Thanks for sorting this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liadon Xiloscient Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Then it's settled, I'll train/teach/practice everything I need to be Amazing RP and Good PK. Time to hit the books. *begins to study FL religiously* EDIT: is there a place with all of the help files online? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Nameless Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 www.aabahran.com There should be al ink to FL wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmajunkie Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Good luck with it all. PK takes awhile to truly get comfortable with. Especially in your first MUD. Plenty of resources to help you though. Use them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Coffee Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Read all of the essays and read ALL of the PK logs. And also, roll yourself something nasty to get your feet wet...logging your own fights too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Professor Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 As I already said Immortals cooperate with the same players all the time.I never had immortal cooperate with me or Rp with me even when I tried.I miss the old good days when there were scary killers that will Rp with you only if they have benefits from doing it.Now the mud is more RP enforced than ever that is what I don't like about it.Take this example' date=' if I am cold blooded killer why should I sit anywhere with you in the map and chat like a bitch with you?How many of you have chatted with Vanicus Tetsunai or Azantar?I miss the rewards purely on PK that is what I mean.[/quote'] I rp'd with Tetsunai A LOT before he hunted me, while he was hunting me and after he claimed my bounty! With Azantar it was more bantar, cause I kept getting away by the skin of my teeth...with my char's rp, I had to be "cocky" about it, but it all turned out to be good fun...always so VERY VERY close to getting me, but I got away everytime. Our own little cat and mouse game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erana Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 The essays are way out-dated and largely incorrect. Feel free to send in new ones to the prayer forum if you can do a better job. Some PK logs may be out-dated for pk strategies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liadon Xiloscient Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 That's what I was thinking, I've heard on multiple accounts that the Wiki was outdated, I'd be more than happy to work with a few people to get it sorted out. I mean after all, what better way to learn the game then to re-organize it and work with some of the games best players/Mods to get it all sorted out. In any case I wouldn't mind taking a break from FL and simply say that In-Game Liadon was in the Academy/Libraries learning the lands, and besides, she was told to be Herald she'd be required to teach. *shrugs* This seems like a win win scenario. Who's with me, and is it a good idea? You've got me as a professional Graphic Artist saying I'll utilize what I've learned in college to make this place pretty. (I even know a few different artists that would love to help me as well.) I'll make banners, illustrate some things to make this place have more eye catching pop. I know how to work with raw HTML, XHTML, BBC, and within a months time I'll have access to ALL of the Adobe Suit. This is my application but if I need to I can create a portfolio and send it to whoever needs to see it to make it official. PS: I think we should have hoodies & t-shirts with the different groups, like HERALD or NEXUS ect ect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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