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So...sitting in a letter world' date=' drinking tea with a dryad is better than leading armies and kicking the **** out of your enemies? RP before PK? Having in mind the best way to rank is to kill things? I've been confused about this place from a long time it seems.[/quote']

*checks his watch* Well? Who's going to come back and re-explain it all again so he understands it properly this time?

NOT IT!

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So...sitting in a letter world' date=' drinking tea with a dryad is better than leading armies and kicking the **** out of your enemies? RP before PK? Having in mind the best way to rank is to kill things? I've been confused about this place from a long time it seems.[/quote']

Rping the character your trying to lead armies with, and kick ***, is what you should do here.

Who remembers Agrimar? Almost noone

Who remembers Suunmar? Almost everyone

Both could pk, both the same combo, one had much better rp.

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So...sitting in a letter world' date=' drinking tea with a dryad is better than leading armies and kicking the **** out of your enemies? RP before PK? Having in mind the best way to rank is to kill things? I've been confused about this place from a long time it seems.[/quote']

It's so hard not to flame you right now.

What is it you think that you deserve?

Your rp has been cookie cutter.

Your pk is decent, but when you die due to your own stupidity or lack of experiance you freak out and delete or blame it on everyone else.

I get the feeling you are just looking for an agrument now.

What is it you want?

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Personally, if there were going to be a leader in my cabal I would want that leader to have exceptional RP (better than mine, I'd think) and be able to PK (and do so very well) when needed. I don't think Leader spots should just be randomly handed out to people who put in 100 hours here, 100 hours there..

I mean, don't get me wrong.. hours truly have -nothing- to do with getting Leader except being WATCHED by the whole IMM staff. It has everything to do with your RP, you sticking to it, and the way you go about your PK (I'd imagine). Being able to stick to RP for over 600+ hours and still truck with it, have things new come from it, etc, I think is exceptional Leader/Elder material.

I'd also like to say: If you only want to PK, and don't care about RP, why should you get Leader/Elder at all? They both go hand in hand in every decision and interaction you have.

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I do think that if a cabal hasn't had a leader in a long time or if it's empty that more slack should be given. If only one Warmaster is fighting against 6 Savants if I was an IMM I'd feel bad for the guy. The great with pk thing should be given slack too IMO, if the player is more of a strategist or diplomat he could still lead fine. I won't ever have a leader because I don't make my characters with outgoing personalities, they have a past and stories and their own personality but I've never been the type to make a "Look at me and listen!" character. Nothing wrong with it because it is a legit personality, just not my style.

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Istendil doesn't have a "Hey! Look at me and listen!" personality. I don't think Jaspurr did either' date=' or any other previous Leader I know.[/quote']

You're correct, but I have never seen Istendil or Jaspurr or any of the other leaders shy away from an interaction. There is always an explanation behind being unable to talk not just 'Busy fighting nexus.' and that's all there is. It is part of the reason I think that some RP shines to more people.

When you are actually striving to interact with everyone on one level or another it really makes life better for everyone in the game. I'm not saying this is a bad thing by any means, but the RP of your two examples stands out above and beyond BECAUSE of your willingness to immerse yourself fully into the character and becoming invested. If you only interact with people in your PK/group range, your RP becomes by FAR and away more of a 'Look at me look at me!'.

Disclaimer: This is just the perspective of a player who has only been here one year. Take it as you will.

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Well for one I have no problem talking to anybody despite who you are.

Liadon isn't just loud, but I aim to make her charismatic; but not the fake kind that doesn't "change" with every interaction. She's still the same person while each interaction influences her.

I don't know... I LOVE EVERY RP I have with Liadon. I'm not sure how much damage I can do with a healer but I've been reading up on the PK logs and seeing what I can do.

I wont just bend over.

Just saying.

LOL jKjK

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Heh I think you all might have misunderstood. I'm not talking about someone who has to run into everyone's face with it and force it. Let me explain, most of my characters have never had something huge going on. They just exist, they have their own thoughts and feelings, a family and they're just trying to get by in a dangerous world. I've never rp'd someone like Heiku who you'd hear about without meeting him. Take Aylivar, he was quiet and controlled and only spoke when he felt he had something important to say. It wasn't reclusive it was just his personality and sometimes I'd be screaming at the screen but couldn't write what I was thinking because he didn't feel that way. I'm not knocking down anyone's rp and I admired Heiku, I just don't think that with my usual style of characters I'd get Leader, not changing how I play though.

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Well for one I have no problem talking to anybody despite who you are.

Liadon isn't just loud, but I aim to make her charismatic; but not the fake kind that doesn't "change" with every interaction. She's still the same person while each interaction influences her.

I don't know... I LOVE EVERY RP I have with Liadon. I'm not sure how much damage I can do with a healer but I've been reading up on the PK logs and seeing what I can do.

I wont just bend over.

Just saying.

LOL jKjK

Healers > ANY EVIL, Neutrals are a pain, but Healers are just sick, in terms of pk, even with all the nerfin they have recieved, from my understanding, thats why healer pk of non-undead/demon is frowned upon. Even then, Healer > Undead of any form....like, I think a Healer is more beef in PK then a Crusader

Edit: And I have played a Crusader

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Actually' date=' they are not allowed to PK demons too.[/quote']Are you certain that this is not dependant upon religion? Seems both Nature and Purity Healers may be more likely to hunt a demon down, and less likely to be punished for doing so. Where a tranquility Healer would likely be Outcast for fighting anything that is alive. While we think of demons as less than living, the truth is that the host of the demon is very much alive. Tybs did not get outcast for slaying Depravikant, but Enzekriel did get outcast for spanking IKFL's warmaster slith thief.
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Which is what I'm doing, I go out and hunt Vampires with most of my hunting parties well I did before I stopped getting EXP from them... Now I'm hunting and getting beat up by Blood Thirsty Centaurs.

As for protecting myself, there was this one character that surprised Liadon and it was before I actively threw up protections and to be honest... I don't think he would have made it, and I WOULD have chased him down to finish the job if it wasn't for the fact that the person that I was following decided to run.

*grumbles*

I could have had my first PK...

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That said Healers can still kill people' date=' and often have to in defending themselves and their cabals - they just aren't supposed to be aggressive, or actively hunt anything other than undeads.[/quote']

Healers, by nature, should not be trying to kill people that are not undead. A good healer would only ever take a life in self-defense.

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Healers' date=' by nature, should not be [i']trying to kill people that are not undead. A good healer would only ever take a life in self-defense.

Or flee and attempt to verbally stop the fight continously.

No one should die to a healer unless they want too.

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