Active PK with Sigils

[kaboomer]

The help files don't offer too much as far as cut-and-dry rules for Sigil behavior. When is it OK to actively PK as one?

Can I:

- Actively seek and kill a Nexus who hasn't attacked the Castle?

- Initiate cabal warfare against nexus?

- Actively seek and hunt a character who is in a cabal at war with Knight?

- Initiate cabal warfare against another cabal at war with Knight?

(Do these conditions changed if the non-Nexus cabal enemy is a neutral?)

-Actively seek and kill non-caballed evils?

-Actively seek and kill non-caballed evils I have not interacted with (Avatar-esque)?

- Defend myself and ultimately kill aggressive opponents, evil or neutral?

Any help would be appreciated!

[The-Nameless]

I would refrain from non-warfare aggressive PK. I can't say that it is set in stone, I know Sigil SHOULD be less aggressive.

As far as pking random evils like an avatar, no. I remember Avatars and Sigils are a nono since Elloran? maybe. You can participate in all forms of Cabal warfare, your not a healer (or are you??) after all. Just read Help Sigil, it gives a good outlook on how sigils operate.

[f0xx]

The way see sigils is the same I see neutrals - you don't attack unless being given a reason.

Of course you can always fabricate a reason by RPing with said evil.

[Nekky]

Although I hope instead of 'coming up with' a reason to kill someone, you just follow your RP which may or may not involve killing them.

See my post on Passive and Justification RP!

[f0xx]

You are twisting my words Nekky.

What I meant is, you follow your Sigil RP, which should be that of a passive non-aggressive good, but if someone wants to kill, you fight back. That's it.

Also, if someone is known for being notoriously evil, you chase him and give him hell.

That is how I personally see Sigil.

Now if I am a newly pinned evil and some Sigil Elder comes aggressively hunting me, then there is a problem. But if I am some DKN who's been killing people left and right, I won't whine when a sigil comes after me, even if I haven't attacked him and even if we are not in war.

Of course people will always find reasons to whine. Sigin =/= healer. You are allowed to kill evils just as you are allowed to aggressive hunt them. What you are not allowed to do though, is act like an avatar, and that's exactly why avatars are not allowed in sigil.

PS: Your Passive and Justification RP thread is basicly a rip of Raargant's Counter Strike RP thread.

[Imoutgoodbye]

Now if I am a newly pinned evil and some Sigil Elder comes aggressively hunting me, then there is a problem.

But if I am some DKN who's been killing people left and right, I won't whine when a sigil comes after me, even if I haven't attacked him and even if we are not in war.

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Just want to point out a couple of things.

In the first statement, I'm there with you. Unfortunately, the only one who can clamp down on a caballed character like that is an Immortal. Any non-caballed, non-healer 50 could easily come along and say, "I know what guild you are, blah, blah, I see the evil in your soul, blah blah" and this still kinda ticks me off. It denies certain kinds of RP and everyone has divination magic.

As to the second statement, I am unsure if you are using a DKN example on purpose or not. The Dark Knight guild is an evil guild all around and the reasoning of everyone know what guild you belong to because you're of "hero status, above the commoner" has always been there and I feel ultimately always will. However, it irks me to no end when I'm part of a guild like monks or warriors that allow all alignments and I'm a race that is not alignment restricted and once again, everyone has divination magic. I can't even begin to RP my history or anything like that because everyone "knows me".

Just wanted to flesh those two statements out a little more so no one gets the idea that everyone has the same view on them, as much as I wish they did.

[Nekky]

f0xx, I agree with your take on Sigil RP, and my post wasn't designed to be an attack on you.

[The-Nameless]

If you lived in a place like the balkans you would fear everything as an attack also.

[Celerity]

PS: Your Passive and Justification RP thread is basicly a rip of Raargant's Counter Strike RP thread.

Which is quite similar to my active vs passive RP one. Three different ways of saying the same thing and identifying the same problem. That it is similar doesn't detract from Nekky's excellent and completely ignored post, it just points it out again.

[KRins]

Which is quite similar to my active vs passive RP one. Three different ways of saying the same thing and identifying the same problem. That it is similar doesn't detract from Nekky's excellent and completely ignored post' date=' it just points it out again.[/quote']

Isn't it scary... She types 3 sentences and proves she smarter than we all are...

[jibber]

Can I:

- Actively seek and kill a Nexus who hasn't attacked the Castle?

Yes. Provided you have the RP to do it, and that you don't 'Slaughter' them continually. Being that Nexus is a big enemy to Aabahran itself, most of the time you'll be protected from any hatred (except from the Nexun you kill. They usually say something about "Aggressive Sigil? BS!!!")

- Initiate cabal warfare against nexus?

Definitely.

- Actively seek and hunt a character who is in a cabal at war with Knight?

I would attack and take the standard at every leisure and possible time. If said character comes to defend and attacks you and/or your altar, use that as RP to kill them.

- Initiate cabal warfare against another cabal at war with Knight?

(Do these conditions changed if the non-Nexus cabal enemy is a neutral?)

You're expected to always initiate cabal warfare with another cabal you're at war with, regardless of align (unless they're good.. which will pretty much NEVER happen)

-Actively seek and kill non-caballed evils?

Leave this to the Praetorians.

-Actively seek and kill non-caballed evils I have not interacted with (Avatar-esque)?

Leave this to the Praetorians.

- Defend myself and ultimately kill aggressive opponents, evil or neutral?

Up to you and how your RP works.

I generally see Sigils as buff healers. You should have very good understand of what life is and what it means to take a life. If you take a life, it's because you were forced to, or because if you didn't take that life, the person you killed would kill others in your absence.

A lot of people in this mud think they have a PERFECT understanding of Sigils where you should NEVER aggressively PK anyone.. which is absolutely WRONG. The helpfile states it very well, and there has been Sigil Invokers in the past (where I was Nexus) who actively PK'd evils and weren't reprimanded for it.

I guess it would be more of a question to the immortals about actively PKing evils then to anyone else here, to be honest. I think it should be done very infrequently, where as someone else may not have a problem with it.

[kaboomer]

Perfect. Thanks!