The-Nameless Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 LOG ON!!!!!! So many things I have not seen in ages. Soul tear, satanic sleeves, bone cane to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Jeez man, you are like a little kid that wants to have every toy possible. You pay WAY too much attention to EQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Nameless Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 F0xx. You are one of the main reasons I dont participate in the FB group. I dont know what the **** your problem is, but you constantly picking at me is getting really old. I haven't done anything to you, nor have I made it a point to call you out on anything. I will HUMBLY ask that you please stop this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I don't really see how my previous post is "picking on you", mate. You have this attitude where you consider everything I say as an attack on you. I am simply saying that you are used to wearing all the shinies and when someone else has them you get mad like a little kid. "I can't fight you, I am missing my adeptus torso, adeptus face, terminators, and my ring of abyss". EQ doesn't make your character man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibber Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Meh. Every post you make f0xx (minus a few) is a pot shot at the previous poster. Not sure if it's because you just simply don't understand how brash you're coming off, but it's becoming a ridiculous knit picking quality of yours. Then again, maybe I'm just now seeing it. It's pretty lame. Your forum etiquette sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Nameless Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 It is not that I am used to wearing all that crap. I do just as well in crap as I do in great gear. The thing is when I have no cabal enemies, no armies to lead, noone to duel, I would like to go on some challenging solo gear trips that have some type of tangible reward at the end. And yes f0xx, most of what you say comes off as very brash, and rude. You can say you do not see it as an attack, but quite honestly your always talking down to someone f0xx. The point of my post is the fact that people have this gear, and dont play, or are shelved. I cannot name a name, but there was someone I recently interacted with, a stone war, who had a staff of nature spirits, soul tear, arctron. Now i have been logging alot of hours, and I have seen this once. Now Ugresh on the other hand is ALWAYS on, and ALWAYS fighting. Ugresh cannot get the gear that he could put to use cause someone wants to keep the gear on a char they obviously do not play anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Intervention for f0xx! Quit being a ... Be nice! As relevant to the topic, I completely agree that this is annoying. I can't speak to if it's happening in game as I have no active pinns, but I hate it when I know the name of a guy I want to brawl with for some PH4T L3WTZ, but then I never see the turkey again. Sometimes I think people just do it to keep the arctrons/Ring of Ultimate Evil/Worn Leather Sleeves out of the picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I apologize if I sound insulting or offensive, it is not my goal. I believe it is because I am used to speaking straight about things without trying to mask them so they "look" better. Also, I don't think anyone has the right to put qualifications on others, especially when it comes to activity. I for example am european and I rarely see the characters which you consider active on. On the other hand, the other day I was reading on the FB chatroom how inactive Thulgan is, and honestly, almost every time I log in he is there. As for not having what to do, I agree with that. Your original gripe was not about that though. I personally hate going on trips and what I hate even more is wasting someone else's time by constantly asking him to come with me to gear/deso/factions. I mean, if cba to go there to gather EQ for myself, why do you think I would be arsed to go there so you can gather it? (Don't feel offended, just speaking in general). I like fighting for my EQ, fighting real people that is. Perhaps that's the reason I still don't know gear or deso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jibber Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 God forbid you have any lick of RP and join someone in a faction (which usually generates even more RP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Nameless Posted May 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Well my rp involves constant testing. And anyone who has interacted with me knows I go out on these trips 90% of the time to get gear for other people. I would love to know how many people I have just given random good gear to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted May 27, 2011 Implementor Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Behave, everyone. Lately we have to nuke a lot of threads because of flaming and flamebaiting. You all know better. Bring real problems to the Prayer Forum, if there are not any, post in a mature, polite and civilized manner. If you are unable to do that at the given time, do NOT post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 twins, I have managed to get some decent eq..but your right, some of those items just are not around lately on player or mob. If we coul dfind out when they play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I have always said that it is the game mechanic that must make the people want to play more and more.You cannot just say to someone log in, I wanna PK you for your gear.The thing that this game lacks is motivation, I have several friends of mine left because simply when they log in they have nothing to do at all.I think that the problem is with the ridicilous requirements that players here require to join a cabal or get a cabal promotion.If the immortals want I have few ideas that will make a lot more active people log in, but they simply never listen to me.I think that the mud is to the immortals of course but what make this game a game are the players. If you wish active players it is very simple, just motivate them.Nobody likes when he logs in to do the same thing all over again or just spam who, where and hope that an enemy will log in.I can throw a several ideas into the prayer forum if you want and trust me, if you implement them you will have a lot of active people on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I agree with the nothing to do. With no real gear to get, and enemies who have to go when I can play, all I do is gather consumables. heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I've thrown around a few ideas concerning cabal warfare in the past. The real problem here is, what do you do when you are Scylane/Teshimei and there are Anamus, Leodinak and Donovan in the lands? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 No man, the real problem is that our pbase lacks motivation, if you are one of these holding your god suit, what will motivate you to log in?Let me tell you what, the oppurtunity to expand yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 True. But how do you suggest this "expanding" to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Return the old cabal promoting system with the votes to T, make the cabal inductions and the cabal warfare to begin at 30.It would be so much more rewarding and entertaining than to wait an immortal to notice you and blabla.Can't you understand that these high requirements make the people leave or shelve?This clanquest tasks and all this crap is completely useless, I must wait for one quest an hour and then I am sent to kill the red determinant at level 40, why is all that?What even if I am sent to a mob that is easy for the vets but as a new to the game I don't know it?I must wait another hour go get another quest, then tell me this is newbie friendly. No one is asking you for a leader or elder immediately, but trusted should be not that hard to obtain.I miss the old days when cabals were full, people were motivated to prove themselves and inductions were at level 30.Why should cabals have so high requirements at all?I dont see the reason behind this.You cannot be motivated and feel the full potential of the game when you always has to deal with some kind of monster waiting times and requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I will give you one example how everything in the mud is linked.For example Anume always said that giving three vampires at once will screw the pbase which in my oppinion is wrong, here is what goes when three vampires are on: 1.This will motivate people to roll more watchers. 2.After there are more watchers other people will wish to play tribunals to balance the game. 3.When there are tribunals there will be more nexuses. 4.When there are more Tribunals there would be more bounties and more Syndicates to play. 5.Even there could be more healers. 6....and the vampires would be glad that they have been given the chance to play vampires. If you do not think this is true, look exactly what happened to the mud when there were three active tribunals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyzarius Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 I will give you one example how everything in the mud is linked.For example Anume always said that giving three vampires at once will screw the pbase which in my oppinion is wrong, here is what goes when three vampires are on: 1.This will motivate people to roll more watchers. 2.After there are more watchers other people will wish to play tribunals to balance the game. 3.When there are tribunals there will be more nexuses. 4.When there are more Tribunals there would be more bounties and more Syndicates to play. 5.Even there could be more healers. 6....and the vampires would be glad that they have been given the chance to play vampires. If you do not think this is true, look exactly what happened to the mud when there were three active tribunals. in fantasy mushroom for breakfast snort your lunch and smoke your dinner land...sure...all that will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 in fantasy mushroom for breakfast snort your lunch and smoke your dinner land...sure...all that will work. yes sure, that is why before years we had 40 avg people now we have 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0xx Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Your logic is narrow minded. To think there is only one single reason for the drop in our PB is just naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_nightmare Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Your logic is narrow minded. To think there is only one single reason for the drop in our PB is just naive. Listen up what f0xx, I am not saying this is the only reason of our pbase drop, but I can assure you that this is one of the main reasons and the easiest to fix.And if you will be giving some critics while others are giving ideas that are good and will do something good better do not answer.at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinblades713 Posted May 27, 2011 Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 Looking at the core idea, honestly I agree with nightmare. Probably not the sole reason, but one. It seems there are three phases, ranking, training, and pinn play (gear trips, on average most of your pk). If it was all melded together I think it would feel more alive. Maybe allow caballing at 30 and also have level requirements for promo, ie; can't get m till 35, v till 40, t at pinn, etc. Just an idea. If nothing else, try it? I want to acknowledge that anume has said in the past she wasn't against early induction and that people usually wait for training and pinn to apply. Maybe just toss out app proposals to level 30s who are trying? Those who want in will app, those whO train won't. First come first serve. I remember when the game was hectic but fun. It seems far too orderly and predictable now. I also want to acknowledge that none of my post bags on rp levels. I want to note I think it's gotten much better. Just a few thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implementor Anume Posted May 27, 2011 Implementor Report Share Posted May 27, 2011 The example you gave simply does not work. This has been profen several times over. Even if there is ONE very strong char that plays a lot, opposition is more likely to cease to exist completely than to rise. Thus we have a rise and fall of cabal numbers. As to induction from rank 30 on, this is already in and up to each cabal imm to do. I know both I as well as several other Imms have often before inducted way before rank 50, it is up to the player to make his future cabal Imm aware they wish to join before 50 and prove they are up to it. As to full cabals, almost all cabals are pretty full right now... So no, Nomak, I don't think what you posted there would work at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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