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Promotions to T happen whenever the cabal Imm thinks you've proven your worth. This can be very fast if they see you put in a lot of effort - even if you die a lot, especially if you die a lot but keep on trying.

What is harder to do, do good when you win anyway or keep on trying even if you are often failing?

Many cabals also have other requirements for auto-promos pre T, such as number of quests, challenges, etc.

The command "Cabal promotion" will usually tell you what more is required.

Of our cabals, 4 are almost full with just 1 - 2 open spaces. If it is this full, the cabal Imm will be watching his clannies carefully to see which of them to allow.

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But this is exactly what ruins some parts of the game, Anume.That your characters future depends on somebody visions(immortal).For example in the eyes of my cabal mates I can be doing good and be worthy for a promotion, but what if the cabal immortal log in just when I have a bad day with my character, then I should wait another 3-4 days to get something, and even then it is not quite certain that I am getting it.Also I am utterly against someone to be playing 40 hours,putting all efforts to get to T and another to have played 8 and get promoted, only because his immortal is different and promotes him faster.That makes people choose their cabals not because of RP or which suits their character more, but because of this who is the most active immortal and who promotes faster.I have been trough this I can tell you.There might be 4 almost full cabals but there is only one or two people of each that are active, others are not.You are saying:come play our mud it is newbie friendly and people have all the freedom they want, but that is not true actually.Clan quests are not newbie friendly, not at all.It is not newbie friendly as well to read the help file "help knight" for example.There says that you can apply at rank 25 but actually you cannot.You have to go through quests that half of the time send you into suicidal missions and if you somehow get V in the clan after some serious play time, then you have to face the immortal(whom if in the mood will let you in the cabal).

Now tell me how this is fairplay and how this will keep our tiny playerbase from not becoming even tinier.

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I have never chosen a cabal based on promotion rates. Every time I have chosen a cabal it has been the best one to suit my RP, even if it was not the most potent choice for pk.

I chose reaver invoker before we all knew it was violently powerful because thats where my invoker belongs. I took mysterum as a psi because thats what my char did, wandered the planes in search of knowledge. Temp would have been a huge spike to power, but I chose the RP related path. You cannot label an entire group of people based on your beliefs. Perhaps the reason you are waiting so long for T is because of what you are doing. It is not just your cabal imm that observes you. All imms watch you, and offer input.

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I have never chosen a cabal based on promotion rates. Every time I have chosen a cabal it has been the best one to suit my RP, even if it was not the most potent choice for pk.

I chose reaver invoker before we all knew it was violently powerful because thats where my invoker belongs. I took mysterum as a psi because thats what my char did, wandered the planes in search of knowledge. Temp would have been a huge spike to power, but I chose the RP related path. You cannot label an entire group of people based on your beliefs. Perhaps the reason you are waiting so long for T is because of what you are doing. It is not just your cabal imm that observes you. All imms watch you, and offer input.

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also, maybe getting into a cabal at 25 is done by completing those suicidal quests. Showing you are not average, that you are willing to do all you can for your cabal. I got promoted from I to V for doing a quest to kill deliver something to G'harne in shudde m'el at level 28, because I was willing to risk that exp hole, and do what needed to be done for the clan. You are the one who creates your value, and imms determine that value

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i consider myself mediocre in this game.. I've been playing for a long time, but not nearly steady or intensive enough to really know the game in and out...

... and I recently made a major comeback. I've never, ever had a cabal-ed character before.. and only ever had a small handful of pinns..

.... but I have to say I found the whole experience of getting into the Cabal -very- satisfying. Yeah, I did a lot of work. yeah, some of the quests I had to really think about or maybe even ask questions. But when I finally got those rewards and promotions, they felt GREAT. like I really accomplished something with my character.

I've been hooked, and I'm here to stay and play. I'm not in the most steady of living situations, so my internet connection is in and out, but I log on when I can. There's a ton of possibilities in FL, and PK isn't everything... it's major, but RP is a huge part of this game, and that's one of the things I really love.

anyways.. yeah... can't we all get along? *hug*

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The example you gave simply does not work. This has been profen several times over. Even if there is ONE very strong char that plays a lot, opposition is more likely to cease to exist completely than to rise.

Thus we have a rise and fall of cabal numbers.

As to induction from rank 30 on, this is already in and up to each cabal imm to do. I know both I as well as several other Imms have often before inducted way before rank 50, it is up to the player to make his future cabal Imm aware they wish to join before 50 and prove they are up to it.

As to full cabals, almost all cabals are pretty full right now...

So no, Nomak, I don't think what you posted there would work at all.

Hmm really? I remember the Grum/Oppressant period when there were at least 3 waves of watcher periods that tried to defeat them. Not to mention the Knights that got involved. When Sepahoona rose to power wasn't there a wave of Warmasters that came in? Or what about all the guys that came after the Leadered Istendil? I know when I play strong characters I wish people would just quit and leave, yet somehow it feels like even more wanna try to kick the crap outta me. Though you may be right as you see more than most of us players do.

Anume is right as there have been a few pre-pinned cabaled characters recently. Though I think why this isn't a standard is has become overlooked is the fact that the character needs to make the Imm aware they wish to join before 50. We wouldn't want undedicated, 2 day old, lvl 30 characters taking up spots in cabals for a month or longer.

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Two days too level 30 isn't that hard... find a good hunting party and it's cake as long as you too are trying for levels. (meaning that you're questing and actively hunting by yourself when there are no hunting parties) I did it with one of my most recent characters.

Then again that was how I spent my two days off in a row too... In any case, it IS possible.

LoL

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